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Old 02-10-2019, 10:30 AM
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Nobody considers Byrd a hero other than West Virginians because of the incredible amount of federal funding he secured for the Mountain State.
Wrong again, Finn.

From the AP:Byrd evolved from segregationist to liberal hero

From the NY Times: Robert C. Byrd, a Pillar of the Senate, Dies at 92

And then there's Hillary: Hillary Clinton Remembers ‘Friend and Mentor’ Robert Byrd
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:46 AM
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Sure. Saying especially good stuff on the occasion of someone's death is customary. He's mostly forgotten now, except when dug up by folks who want to use his long bones as clubs.

Funny you have to dig up a years-dead southern democrat to find someone to distract from all the live-and-in-our-faces Republican bigots we are plagued-with now.
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:15 PM
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Sure. Saying especially good stuff on the occasion of someone's death is customary. He's mostly forgotten now, except when dug up by folks who want to use his long bones as clubs.

Funny you have to dig up a years-dead southern democrat to find someone to distract from all the live-and-in-our-faces Republican bigots we are plagued-with now.
Northam is a Repub? Wow, who knew??
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Northam is a Repub? Wow, who knew??
This is you all over. A serious, civil post is "answered" with nothing but annoying sarcasm. Hell of a way to behave. If that's all you have, please don't bother to reply in the future.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:19 AM
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These are eulogies, dimwit. The true heroes of the Democratic Party are FDR and JFK. Byrd was recognized for his length of service and his willingness to stay with the party when LBJ helped turned the party's back on its racist past and then fight for civil rights (unlike the other Dixiecrats who switched to the GOP in disgust of LBJ's civil and voting rights initiatives). Byrd is only revered as a hero in West Virginia and that's for his pork barrel prowess, not his ideology.

He was appreciated for his willingness to renounce his racist past and become a true warrior for the cause of civil rights. In the words of the NAACP following his death, “Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation. Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country."
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:30 AM
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These are eulogies, dimwit. [/I]
Wrong again, road apple. The examples from the NY Times and the AP were news stories. Hillary was eulogizing, but in the context of this thread, her comments provide appropriate historical perspective.
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Wrong again, road apple. The examples from the NY Times and the AP were news stories. Hillary was eulogizing, but in the context of this thread, her comments provide appropriate historical perspective.
The Times and AP stories were written on the very day of his death. So, yes, they were eulogies/tributes of a man who died that day.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:03 AM
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The Times and AP stories were written on the very day of his death. So, yes, they were eulogies/tributes of a man who died that day.
Newspapers print obituaries for the purpose of paying tribute. There's a special section for that Or they print opinions in the Opinion section. Both of those stories appeared in the NEWS section.

No further spin on your part is required.
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Newspapers print obituaries for the purpose of paying tribute. There's a special section for that Or they print opinions in the Opinion section. Both of those stories appeared in the NEWS section.

No further spin on your part is required.
No argument too stupid for Whell. Can't ever be eulogistic praise in the NEWS section? That's your argument?

And no matter what about long-dead Byrd, the Republicans of today live and breathe racism!
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:44 AM
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No argument too stupid for Whell. Can't ever be eulogistic praise in the NEWS section? That's your argument?

And no matter what about long-dead Byrd, the Republicans of today live and breathe racism!
Bottom line - Yes, opinions belong in the opinion section. It can certainly be news to report on the "eulogistic" comments of others regarding public figures, but that's not what these stories did. The AP NEWS story used the word "hero" twice, and not as a direct quote. Similar for the NY Times NEWS story.

As far as your "live and breathe racism comment"....hmmmm....who was this OP originally about? A Dem? Nice attempt at deflection, though.
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