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01-16-2018, 07:51 AM
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Its apparently more important to the folks that want an immigration status quo to attack the administration attempting to modify the status quo than it is to have a debate about merit based immigration (or any changes to the current system for that matter.
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Lying Donnie Dotard blew up the bipartisan attempt to come to a solution to the immigration problem after saying that he would sign what the attendees of the Tuesday meeting came up with. He deliberately sandbagged Durbin and Graham at the "shithole" meeting by making it crystal clear that race must be a factor in determining merit under his "merit-based" system. That is something Durbin and Graham, to their credit, simply could not abide.
With your stubborn desire to deny Trump's obvious racism, I recommend you read this history of his racist statements and actions:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mp-racist.html
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01-16-2018, 08:58 AM
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Lying Donnie Dotard blew up the bipartisan attempt to come to a solution to the immigration problem after saying that he would sign what the attendees of the Tuesday meeting came up with. He deliberately sandbagged Durbin and Graham at the "shithole" meeting by making it crystal clear that race must be a factor in determining merit under his "merit-based" system. That is something Durbin and Graham, to their credit, simply could not abide.
With your stubborn desire to deny Trump's obvious racism, I recommend you read this history of his racist statements and actions:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mp-racist.html
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Right back to it, eh Finn? Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lcART6TTE
None of this is relevant, of course, to the need to address border security or immigration reform, which is the point I'm making but the point you want to ignore. But you keep believing what you want to believe.
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01-16-2018, 09:11 AM
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Right back to it, eh Finn? Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lcART6TTE
None of this is relevant, of course, to the need to address border security or immigration reform, which is the point I'm making but the point you want to ignore. But you keep believing what you want to believe.
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And you continue to miss the point - Trump's insistence upon race as a determining factor in "merit-based" immigration. That's what this whole brouhaha is about, dimwit.
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01-16-2018, 12:39 PM
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And you continue to miss the point - Trump's insistence upon race as a determining factor in "merit-based" immigration. That's what this whole brouhaha is about, dimwit.
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Only if you lap up as "fact" the claims of Dick Durban, dimwit. That puts you squarely in the position of believing someone who is a snake and a liar over someone who you also claim is a snake and a liar. And if that's how fragile your house of cards is built, I pity you.
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01-16-2018, 12:41 PM
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Only if you lap up as "fact" the claims of Dick Durban, dimwit. That puts you squarely in the position of believing someone who is a snake and a liar over someone who you also claim is a snake and a liar. And if that's how fragile your house of cards is built, I pity you.
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There is simply nobody in the history of American politics remotely as dishonest and unethical as your Dear Leader. Durbin is accused of one lie in 2013, whereas Trump has lied a documented 2,000 times in the past year.
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01-16-2018, 01:17 PM
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There is simply nobody in the history of American politics remotely as dishonest and unethical as your Dear Leader. Durbin is accused of one lie in 2013, whereas Trump has lied a documented 2,000 times in the past year.
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Finn, why even bother?
Study: 42 percent of Republicans believe accurate — but negative — stories qualify as ‘fake news’
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Four in 10 [or 42 percent of] Republicans consider accurate news stories that cast a politician or political group in a negative light to always be “fake news.” [The corresponding figure for Democrats is 17 percent.]
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The intent of whell is to deny and frustrate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.a5fa031aad76
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01-16-2018, 02:38 PM
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There is simply nobody in the history of American politics remotely as dishonest and unethical as your Dear Leader. Durbin is accused of one lie in 2013, whereas Trump has lied a documented 2,000 times in the past year.
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Yet there you are, still building your house of cards by investing in one liar over another.
In the meantime, here's more bullshit from the "accused".
Durbin: Trump is a racist for using the term "chain migration".
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...in_chains.html
Durbin: uses the term "chain migration".
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...mp_racist.html
This guy trades in race - baiting like many in the Dem party do, yet we "must" believe him in this instance. Uh...no.
I think what's really going on here is that Durbin is pissed at Trump for "sandbagging" him on immigration, so this is Durbin's way of getting back at Trump.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/16/politi...ntv/index.html
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01-16-2018, 02:54 PM
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There's no question that Trump sandbagged Durbin and Graham. There's also no question that Trump is a racist and that he wants to use race as a deciding factor for "merit-based" immigration. Heck, even his designated liar, Sarah Hillbilly Sanders, is no longer denying his "shithole" comment:
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders did not deny Tuesday morning that President Donald Trump had called certain Caribbean and African nations “shithole countries,” telling reporters outside the West Wing that the president had never denied using “strong language.”
"Look, the president hasn't said he didn't use strong language. And this is an important issue. He's passionate about it," Sanders said when asked why Trump reportedly defended the comment to allies while denying it publicly. "He's not going to apologize for trying to fix our immigration system. He's committed to doing that and hopefully Democrats will be too."
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...esponse-340683
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