Recognition Denied, Medal of Honor

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

White glove inspections were a way of life for us kids growing up and he never rose above Pfc.

Pay-backs are hell!

John

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Cool. Pops served in the 10thAD, Third Army 43-45 Ardennes, Rhineland, he was there for the reduction of Metz in France. White glove inspections were a way of life for us kids growing up and he never rose above Pfc.

Anything with bouncing quarters on the bed blanket?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Anything with bouncing quarters on the bed blanket?

Naw, nothing that anal.

[4-2-7]

This is one of the reasons I say we are living and have lived in one of the best times in America. Our parents and grand parents had world wars and depression. Comfort of life was not as good with less technology. We got all the benefits of there hard life.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

This is one of the reasons I say we are living and have lived in one of the best times in America. Our parents and grand parents had world wars and depression. Comfort of life was not as good with less technology. We got all the benefits of there hard life.

True, that.

[BlueStreak]

I see.

My only close connection to the Vietnam War is my second oldest brother who was infantry and rarely talks about it. We always figured he was in the shit, because he shies away from guns, fireworks.....pretty much anything that goes "bang". And in an argument with a wannabe badass former brother in law, he was overheard saying; "If I owned a gun you would be dead. Don't think I would? I've killed so many people I lost count."

Dave

[JJIII]

I think part of the problem is that there is such a small part of the total U.S. population (See here.. https://www.google.com/#q=percentage...litary+service) that is in the military that very few civilians have any idea about how the military works. When you are in the service, you do what the orders tell you to do. It doesn't matter whether you want to stay Stateside or whether you want to go overseas, you get sent where you are needed. I served during the Vietnam Era. I did all of my service at Ft. Stewart, Ga. Three of my high school buddies, in much the same situation as I was, went elsewhere, two to Vietnam, and one to the Philippines. You can't blame an individual for what ever his/her orders were. They had no control.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by JJIII

I think part of the problem is that there is such a small part of the total U.S. population (See here.. https://www.google.com/#q=percentage...litary+service) that is in the military that very few civilians have any idea about how the military works. When you are in the service, you do what the orders tell you to do. It doesn't matter whether you want to stay Stateside or whether you want to go overseas, you get sent where you are needed. I served during the Vietnam Era. I did all of my service at Ft. Stewart, Ga. Three of my high school buddies, in much the same situation as I was, went elsewhere, two to Vietnam, and one to the Philippines. You can't blame an individual for what ever his/her orders were. They had no control.

Well I was never in the militarry, too young for WW II, was married when Kprea happened and for sme reason, just because I can't raise my left arm above shoulder height they didn't want me. However not speaking for others I never assumed there were any choices you bloody well go where they say. Oldest brother was army other brother RCAF and BIL was RCN

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Well I was never in the militarry, too young for WW II, was married when Kprea happened and for sme reason, just because I can't raise my left arm above shoulder height they didn't want me. However not speaking for others I never assumed there were any choices you bloody well go where they say. Oldest brother was army other brother RCAF and BIL was RCN

There isn't at first. But, some lifers find ways as they develop "connections" over time. At least that's how it used to be. I'm sure it hasn't changed, some forms of corruption have impressive staying power.

Dave

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JJIII

I think part of the problem is that there is such a small part of the total U.S. population (See here.. https://www.google.com/#q=percentage...litary+service) that is in the military that very few civilians have any idea about how the military works. When you are in the service, you do what the orders tell you to do. It doesn't matter whether you want to stay Stateside or whether you want to go overseas, you get sent where you are needed. I served during the Vietnam Era. I did all of my service at Ft. Stewart, Ga. Three of my high school buddies, in much the same situation as I was, went elsewhere, two to Vietnam, and one to the Philippines. You can't blame an individual for what ever his/her orders were. They had no control.

The system was corrupt as Hell back then.

I tried to wait out the war with student deferments.

But I got all the way through four years of college and the Goddamned war was still going strong. So when graduation got near I checked into the National Guard and Reserves because back then you had almost a zero chance of going to war in one of those outfits. But since I was just an ordinary schmuck I was told that I could get a spot at the end of an 18 month waiting list. Cool, I got my draft notice exactly 2 months after I graduated, so a lot of good that did me.

However George W. Bush got to cut to the front of the line. Plus he didn't even have to show up for drill once he was in. Helped to be a rich congressman's son. Know who else got in the guard?

OJ Fucking Simpson, that's who.

It seems that if you had a promising pro football career ahead of you your team could pull strings and get you in.

But me, I got a draft notice which meant I would have to serve only two years, but one of those two was most likely going to be humping an M-16 and a 70 pound ruck through the jungles of South Vietnam.

So, instead I beat it down to the office of someone that could get an ordinary schmuck like me out of the draft. The local Air Force Recruiter.

I had to sign up for four years instead of two, but I would have a much better chance of coming home in one piece, instead of in a wheelchair or a body bag, so I signed up and he sent my draft board a letter saying "You can't have him, he's ours". What that meant is that the poor schmuck that was next on my draft boards list after me got his letter.