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Old 10-14-2017, 08:49 AM
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If there was a for-profit free market alternative to the ACA, we'd already have it.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:20 AM
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I said nothing of the sort, though the plan had elements could help start to bring costs down.
The staggering amount of revisionism you employ in defense of Trump and the GOP is truly a sight to behold (and laugh at).

Here's one of many such exchanges where you claim that the GOP had a viable plan waiting in the wings:

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The GOP had every opportunity during debates on Obamacare to help make it better, just as they did 65 other times when they meaninglessly voted to repeal and replace it. FWIW, they still have no replacement and the one that Trump promised he would unveil last Tuesday doesn't even exist per Senator Hatch.
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Dealt with already. You continue to get it wrong, including the part about not having a replacement.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:24 AM
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Seriously? Your lack of memory in this case seems purposeful. However, lots of ground covered in threads like these, where insurance carriers are characterized as part of the problem because of their profit motive:

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=4502

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=6290
As usual, you're full of crap, Mike. Neither of those links provide any underpinnings to your ridiculous broadbrush statements/attacks.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:25 AM
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If there was a for-profit free market alternative to the ACA, we'd already have it.
Health care cannot be delivered within a true free-market paradigm. A free market requires buyers and sellers of a good/service to have equal information as to the cost, quality and efficacy of all available options. This is simply not possible in health care.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:45 AM
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As usual, you're full of crap, Mike. Neither of those links provide any underpinnings to your ridiculous broadbrush statements/attacks.

Attacks!? LOL! Actually, those links do provide a good source of info about the Repubs history on the topic. The part that's lost on you is that the Repubs aren't stupid enough to try to pass something as huge, unwieldy and unworkable as ObamaCare. Only the left is that stupid.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:54 AM
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Attacks!? LOL! Actually, those links do provide a good source of info about the Repubs history on the topic. The part that's lost on you is that the Repubs aren't stupid enough to try to pass something as huge, unwieldy and unworkable as ObamaCare. Only the left is that stupid.
Yet they have been shit scared to pass a clean repeal for seven frigging years, and why is that?
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:57 AM
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Health care cannot be delivered within a true free-market paradigm. A free market requires buyers and sellers of a good/service to have equal information as to the cost, quality and efficacy of all available options. This is simply not possible in health care.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...d1d51816774?82
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:31 AM
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Yet they have been shit scared to pass a clean repeal for seven frigging years, and why is that?
Shit scared isn't accurate, and a repeal passed the House during the Obama years but does in the Dem controlled Senate. Many Repubs ran on repealing it during the last election But have this far failed to deliver. But I suspect you know this, so why are you trying to be misleading?
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:35 AM
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Health care cannot be delivered within a true free-market paradigm.
History proves the above statement utterly false. Now, if you want to make the point that the recent evolution in the payment systems for healthcare have removed the free market from healthcare, you might have a point.
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