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Old 01-10-2018, 10:20 AM
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Trump Coal Bailout Is Dead.


When are the dumbfucker white Trumpist's and Republican voters in general going to extract their heads from their asses and realize that Donald is too stupid to actually put any legislation or even anyexecutive orders together that mean anything, and at the same time too intellectually lazy to learn enough to not be so fucking stupid.
I honestly have no idea what you're complaining about in this post. Trump has said that he wants multiple sources of energy including coal. While I agree that Perry's proposal to FERC was likely not a great solution, I suspect its just one pixel in a bigger picture.

However, the biggest challenge to the coal industry right now is the cheaper cost of other energy sources, such as natural gas. Not sure what legislation or EO's would be at Trumps disposal to fundamentally change the energy markets, and such legislation even if it did exist would likely be undesirable as well.

Also, opening up more drilling off shore and on land as Trump has proposed will also benefit the energy sector and ultimately the consumer. But, having said that, it will also conspire to make coal less competitive.

Now, if the economy gets moving at a sustained 4 or 5 %, which is possible, the increased demand for energy could put coal right back in the game.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:33 AM
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I honestly have no idea what you're complaining about in this post. Trump has said that he wants multiple sources of energy including coal. While I agree that Perry's proposal to FERC was likely not a great solution, I suspect its just one pixel in a bigger picture.

However, the biggest challenge to the coal industry right now is the cheaper cost of other energy sources, such as natural gas. Not sure what legislation or EO's would be at Trumps disposal to fundamentally change the energy markets, and such legislation even if it did exist would likely be undesirable as well.

Also, opening up more drilling off shore and on land as Trump has proposed will also benefit the energy sector and ultimately the consumer. But, having said that, it will also conspire to make coal less competitive.

Now, if the economy gets moving at a sustained 4 or 5 %, which is possible, the increased demand for energy could put coal right back in the game.
Coal is poison. Burning it poisons the air. Mining it poisons the land.

I'm prepared for your best conservative denial.

PS - If there aren't any coal jobs go find another job.

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Old 01-10-2018, 12:57 PM
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Coal is poison. Burning it poisons the air. Mining it poisons the land.

I'm prepared for your best conservative denial.

PS - If there aren't any coal jobs go find another job.
OH! Ok, now I get it....Ithink.

I think what you're trying to say that Perry's efforts should be taken as nothing more than a token effort to help the the poor white folks in coal mining country, and that this is evidence that Trump doesn't care about them and that they should immediately "turn" on Trump. Does that sum it up?
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:57 PM
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OH! Ok, now I get it....Ithink.

I think what you're trying to say that Perry's efforts should be taken as nothing more than a token effort to help the the poor white folks in coal mining country, and that this is evidence that Trump doesn't care about them and that they should immediately "turn" on Trump. Does that sum it up?
Rick Perry is sludge in a suit and tie. He doesn't give a shit in Blankenship's hat for poor white disenfranchised working class Trump voters in coal country. The white country where white people automatically get to be in front of every brown person in the line for everything, is gone forever. Trump promised it and the poor white disenfranchised easy marks drank the kool aid.

I think poor white disenfranchised working class folk in coal country need to follow the advice that conservative Republicans have been handing out to black and brown people in this country since the Emancipation Proclamation...STFU and go get a job.

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Old 01-10-2018, 07:39 PM
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Rick Perry is sludge in a suit and tie. He doesn't give a shit in Blankenship's hat for poor white disenfranchised working class Trump voters in coal country. The white country where white people automatically get to be in front of every brown person in the line for everything, is gone forever. Trump promised it and the poor white disenfranchised easy marks drank the kool aid.

I think poor white disenfranchised working class folk in coal country need to follow the advice that conservative Republicans have been handing out to black and brown people in this country since the Emancipation Proclamation...STFU and go get a job.
As the link I provided indicates, Hillary did the exact same pandering to the "coal crowd" in the 2016 election, but you only get exercised when Trump does it? Please explain.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:34 AM
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I honestly have no idea what you're complaining about in this post. Trump has said that he wants multiple sources of energy including coal. While I agree that Perry's proposal to FERC was likely not a great solution, I suspect its just one pixel in a bigger picture.
It appears the fact that Donald remains the same two-faced fuck he's been all along is fine with you. I'm shocked.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:49 PM
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It appears the fact that Donald remains the same two-faced fuck he's been all along is fine with you. I'm shocked.
Your ineffectual use of expletives not withstanding, I still have no idea what you're ranting about.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:17 AM
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Everything I am seeing since the new session started up again is about getting 2018 votes. Before they loaded up a budget and a ton of other dishonest items into a partisan budget looting the government and never intending to do anything other than to pass through reconciliation, and without Democratic input whatsoever. Now, new year, short term memories, have to get middle of the road votes. Time to feign bi-partisanship again. Look like the party that didn't pull the rug out from the working class to get votes and then twist the knife you stuck in those working class some more if you win. They are dumb enough to fall for Trump in the first place, they are dumb enough to fall for it again. Yep, could work again.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:03 PM
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...and,if that's true, then explain to me how the Dems offer a better alternative,'cuz the Dems have been similarly disingenuous and ineffective, and they still have no ideas for a solution.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...l-miners-trump
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:57 PM
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I love the term "clean coal" is there really such a thing? I say no and most of the world is using just about anything but coal, including china. it's a dying industry and Trump used the coal miners for their votes. will they still endorse the orange menace? probably!
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