9/11 an inside job?

[BlueStreak]

I don't think so. I mean, I am no big fan of the Bush & Cheney crew, but I seriously doubt they would go THERE. Would they?

Dave

[tincat]

it's not a banner under which i would leap to march, but the trouble is, today, i just can't categorically deny such a scenario as possible.the stakes are very high for those who are close to major money and power. to think that we don't have some seriously nasty people in this country is to be a fool. such creatures would have little difficulty rationalizing the collateral damage attendant to one of their self defense/promotion schemes. rather than organizing a particular strike, however, i believe these 'devil's disciples' cultivate the ground by their greed and arrogance for the lesser intelligences' hatreds(directed by the superior crowd's propaganda) to blossom into violent actions against the 'enemy'. some of this activity rises to the level of 'conspiracy' and 'plots', but at a level well insulated from the true authors.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I don't think so. I mean, I am no big fan of the Bush & Cheney crew, but I seriously doubt they would go THERE. Would they?

Dave

yes they would but they did not

[Charles]

Well, what's it gonna be.

Is Bush some hillbilly bumpkin with his shoes on the wrong feet or the mastermind behind 9-11?

Then again, was Cheney pulling the levers while he kept Bush busy writing policy on his Etch-o-Sketch?

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

Well, what's it gonna be.

Is Bush some hillbilly bumpkin with his shoes on the wrong feet or the mastermind behind 9-11?

Then again, was Cheney pulling the levers while he kept Bush busy writing policy on his Etch-o-Sketch?

Chas

Well, while I don't believe 9/11 was done by this crew, it does seem that you have summed up the Bush administration with razor sharp accuracy here, Chas.

Dave

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

Well, what's it gonna be.

Is Bush some hillbilly bumpkin with his shoes on the wrong feet or the mastermind behind 9-11?

Then again, was Cheney pulling the levers while he kept Bush busy writing policy on his Etch-o-Sketch?

Chas

Bush was not a bumpkin. He certainly has no intellectual curiosity either however.
Yes, Cheney pulled the levers, but not on 911. Cheney simply used 911 to his personal advantage after the fact.

[merrylander]

Bush's only involvement was in ignoring all the warnings. that is a far cry from actually planning the whole thing.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Bush's only involvement was in ignoring all the warnings. that is a far cry from actually planning the whole thing.

Thanks Rob.

When I read folks saying Bush WOULD'VE done it, and then hear them say the teabaggers are nuts, well....

Charles, ain't it funny how Bush is an idiot? He sure kept the Dems tied in knots

Here's an article about a missed opportunity. Take a look at the 20th paragraph, it ties in with another topic we've been discussing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/

Pete

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Bush's only involvement was in ignoring all the warnings. that is a far cry from actually planning the whole thing.

I completely agree.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Bush's only involvement was in ignoring all the warnings. that is a far cry from actually planning the whole thing.

His involvement might have been more substantial than that. Even before taking office he expressed his desire to be a wartime president because as such he would have a freer hand to accomplish his larger agenda. He was even critical of his father for squandering his opportunity in the Gulf War.

It's known that the White House was working on plans for a war against Iraq "from day one", long before Sept. 11. Bush surrounded himself with people his father called "the crazies". Getting control of Mideast oil was a high priority for these guys. Getting Saddam Hussein was a high priority for Bush. It was a marriage made in Hell.

Freudian slip: Operation Iraqi Freedom was first named
Operation
Iraqi
Liberation.

It is believed, but not known, that during Cheney's secret energy meetings Iraq's oil wealth was divvied up among the oil companies attending. Cheney has classified everything about these meetings, even down to times, dates and who was in attendance. We do know, however, that these meetings were held before Sept. 11.

The Neocon think tank The Project For The New American Century (PNAC) authored a paper wherein they recognized that "... the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor". In other words, an event like 9/11 would be useful to them in accelerating the rate of transition to the world they sought. Many members of PNAC, ended up in the Bush Administration. Here's a partial list of signatories to the document I've cited.

Elliot Abrams
John Ellis Bush (Jeb)
Richard B. Cheney
Zalmay Khalilzad
I. Lewis Libby (Scooter)
Donald Rumsfeld
Paul Wolfowitz

Others involved with PNAC:

Richard L. Armitage
John R. Bolton
Linda Chavez
Eliot A. Cohen

All of these except Jeb had high positions in the Administration.

When you couple these facts with the almost unbelievably easy time the highjackers had in hitting us on Sept. 11 it's impossible not to entertain the possibility that bin Laden's attacks were in some way enabled by people in our government, perhaps passively, perhaps actively. I have no firm opinions in this regard but my mind is certainly open.

John

The kid who blows up frogs grows up to blow up countries.