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Old 01-22-2016, 12:45 PM
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I am appalled that this guy is considered smart. Book smarts maybe with his two Ivy League degrees, but a moron in actuality. He gave Trump new fodder to be scorned and belittled. As a member of congress he is eligible for healthcare (employer funded healthcare) and should not be dependent on Obamacare.

So basically a cheap shot at Obamacare which is now passe.
He is smart, as in evil scientist-manipulator smart. His audience is the older, less educated demographic who tend to believe in conspiracy theories...same audience that listens to Limbaugh and watches Pat Robertson.

He is a Princeton-Harvard Ivy league snob trying to pass himself off as something he is not. That is why everyone hates him. Plus he is not above lying about Americans like McCarthy used to do during the Red Scare of the 1950s.
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:01 PM
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He is smart, as in evil scientist-manipulator smart. His audience is the older, less educated demographic who tend to believe in conspiracy theories...same audience that listens to Limbaugh and watches Pat Robertson.

He is a Princeton-Harvard Ivy league snob trying to pass himself off as something he is not. That is why everyone hates him. Plus he is not above lying about Americans like McCarthy used to do during the Red Scare of the 1950s.
I'm usually quite hesitant to use the word "evil" to describe anyone. However, it applies in spades to Cruz. Trump is a narcissistic blowhard and a clown, but Cruz in evil incarnate.
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Old 01-22-2016, 03:47 PM
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I'm usually quite hesitant to use the word "evil" to describe anyone. However, it applies in spades to Cruz. Trump is a narcissistic blowhard and a clown, but Cruz in evil incarnate.
Lying about Chuck Hegel was particularly odious and disqualifies him permanently for me.
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Lying about Chuck Hegel was particularly odious and disqualifies him permanently for me.
I'm definitely not one to support the notion of Hillary being honest (she most assuredly isn't), but what puzzles me is the main complaint from Hillary-haters (i.e., she's dishonest/a liar) applies even more so to Trump or Cruz whose serial lies are applauded and portrayed as "telling it like it is."
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Old 01-22-2016, 04:58 PM
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I'm definitely not one to support the notion of Hillary being honest (she most assuredly isn't), but what puzzles me is the main complaint from Hillary-haters (i.e., she's dishonest/a liar) applies even more so to Trump or Cruz whose serial lies are applauded and portrayed as "telling it like it is."
I guess it is all about who you like...if you hate the other guy so much it is ok if you are not bothered about the truth.
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Old 01-22-2016, 04:56 PM
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Lying about Chuck Hegel was particularly odious and disqualifies him permanently for me.
I think engineering the government shut-down was a lot worse. Objectively, Hagen suffered no lasting harm from Cruz's slime job but a lot of people were harmed by the shut-down and its aftermath.
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I think engineering the government shut-down was a lot worse. Objectively, Hagen suffered no lasting harm from Cruz's slime job but a lot of people were harmed by the shut-down and its aftermath.
I can't believe people have sort of forgotten that. I think it is assumed he would never get the votes of the those hurt by the shutdown anyway so no one talks about it much but of course if he was picked as the nominee it would be a major issue against him.

I hate it when he calls the DC the "Washington Cartel" to me that is unpatriotic and anti-American.
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I can't believe people have sort of forgotten that. I think it is assumed he would never get the votes of the those hurt by the shutdown anyway so no one talks about it much but of course if he was picked as the nominee it would be a major issue against him.

I hate it when he calls the DC the "Washington Cartel" to me that is unpatriotic and anti-American.
I hate it when he says anything. He's like one big fingernail and the world is a chalk board. What a disgusting excuse for a human being!
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I hate it when he says anything. He's like one big fingernail and the world is a chalk board. What a disgusting excuse for a human being!
When he smiles it looks like he just passed a kidney stone or a possum who just raided the henhouse for some eggs.
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