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Old 10-05-2018, 02:51 AM
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What has happened to this forum? It seems to be almost dead. It is a pity.

I also reduced my participation here in the last months and years since politicalchat has turned into trumpchat.

It is how it is. I miss the conversation, the political exchange with you intellectual Americans. But I can't stand the quantity of Trump in this forum anymore.

Maybe one day PC will become again the place it was back then - when I joined it in 2013.

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I think part of the problem was a lack of respect being shown to each other. People are so divided by their ideals and beliefs, they forget to value the person stating them. It is a jackass way to live, it drives everyone away from you. And yes I am guilty of this as times. I found it got really bad here after the last few visits, so I left. The division and hate in the current political realm is unbelievably destructive. I hope we can all step back and re-unite, retake our country instead of fighting among ourselves.
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Old 10-05-2018, 07:10 AM
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I think there is just an ebb and flow to all things in life including PoliticalChat.

Personally, I’ve just been tired of hearing about Trump. I’m burned out on daily scandals.
And, I’ve just been busy lately as I’ve recovered from surgery and are enjoying retirement.
Glad to hear those last bits--carry on!
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Old 10-05-2018, 07:26 AM
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I think part of the problem was a lack of respect being shown to each other. People are so divided by their ideals and beliefs, they forget to value the person stating them. It is a jackass way to live, it drives everyone away from you. And yes I am guilty of this as times. I found it got really bad here after the last few visits, so I left. The division and hate in the current political realm is unbelievably destructive. I hope we can all step back and re-unite, retake our country instead of fighting among ourselves.
But even saying "retake our country' implies fighting, not unity.

'Just folks' can be the reunited with once the cruel people are no longer in charge, polluting everyone with their evil. But real recovery will take a while. Bad habits of thought, once awoken in susceptible people, don't just vanish overnight.
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Old 10-05-2018, 07:26 AM
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i think part of the problem was a lack of respect being shown to each other. People are so divided by their ideals and beliefs, they forget to value the person stating them. It is a jackass way to live, it drives everyone away from you. And yes i am guilty of this as times. I found it got really bad here after the last few visits, so i left. The division and hate in the current political realm is unbelievably destructive. I hope we can all step back and re-unite, retake our country instead of fighting among ourselves.

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Old 10-05-2018, 07:41 AM
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What I get from this and the 'chickenshit' post: what whell had to say generally didn't bother you, and you HATED seeing lots of people bash him a lot.

Please tell me if these two things are true in your view?
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Old 10-05-2018, 08:25 AM
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Whell expressed his opinion, as was his right. Whether or not I agree or disagree with him is of no consequence. The persistent personal attacks and name calling are what I complain about, and have complained about from the start.

The nastiness does not, in my opinion, contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way. I will go so far as to say that it has lead to a lot of good people taking a look around here and deciding they want no part of PC.

So, yeah. You've got it right.

Thanks for asking.
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Old 10-05-2018, 08:53 AM
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Whell did not simply 'state his opinion,' as no one disputes would have been his right. He operated as an aggressive and purposefully-obnoxious troll. For some reason you are unable to discern this, or unable to regard it as important.

In any case, based on your report of how you and others disliked the fights with whell, which I completely believe, my conclusion is that because whell deliberately provoked and fomented the response he got, he basically wrecked this forum.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:00 AM
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We will have to agree to disagree.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:51 AM
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Where have we heard that phrase before?
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Old 10-05-2018, 10:37 AM
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I think there is just an ebb and flow to all things in life including PoliticalChat.

Personally, I’ve just been tired of hearing about Trump. I’m burned out on daily scandals.
And, I’ve just been busy lately as I’ve recovered from surgery and enjoying retirement.
Truely, it is exhausting and exasperating.
A good part of the point of the daily Trumpian circus is to wear down and exasperate opposition. Venting here out of exasperation is somewhat cathartic and to be expected, tho' debate on some productive level should be possible.
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