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Old 07-22-2013, 04:56 PM
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Yes sir. Gotta love the surpluses being posted lately. Hell, even that skinflint Gov. Moonbeam has a balanced budget and a posted surplus out here in granolaland!

Jerry in '16!!! Maybe Ms. Ronstadt will sing at the Inauguration?
You guys still look like you've got a looong way to go.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...uld-pass-1-1t/
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:08 PM
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You guys still look like you've got a looong way to go.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...uld-pass-1-1t/
Deep and wide but we do like our infrastructure in these parts. Sure hope you guys in Michigan follow suit. Those guys in Lansing sure seem to be intent on frittering away opportunities these days.

"Gov. Jerry Brown’s $27.8 billion “wall of debt” was only part of the state’s official debt that the report put at $132.6 billion.

Much of the state’s debt comes from general obligation bonds — funds for public works — totaling $73.1 billion, unemployment insurance loans totaling $10.9 billion, and lease-revenue bonds totaling $11.3 billion."
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:51 AM
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Right, but you still have to have money coming in to be able to pay back all of that debt. Much of a state's income comes from personal and property tax revenues. California's population isn't growing like it used to.

What opportunities has Michigan "frittered away"?
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:30 AM
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Right, but you still have to have money coming in to be able to pay back all of that debt. Much of a state's income comes from personal and property tax revenues. California's population isn't growing like it used to.

What opportunities has Michigan "frittered away"?
Building cars at a quality and cost level that Americans wanted to buy?
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:34 AM
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Right, but you still have to have money coming in to be able to pay back all of that debt. Much of a state's income comes from personal and property tax revenues. California's population isn't growing like it used to.

What opportunities has Michigan "frittered away"?
Real estate values and the associated revenues from the increasing sales has leaped back to pre recession levels here in California. The amount of new construction and the old standbys of repair/ remodels locally is another healthy sign. The folks I've talked to in both the suppy end and the tradesmen and women are optimistic again.

It appears to me from a couple thousand miles away that politics in Lansing have started to mirror the lunacy of the do nothing/know nothing congress in Washington. There's a cancer in the body politic, no one from the right side of the aisle seems to give a crap about the working stiffs who generated the overwhelming majority of tax revenues. We can't grow and prosper on minimum wage jobs.
Just my two cents.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:07 PM
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What opportunities has Michigan "frittered away"?
"South Carolina (BMW), Mississippi ( Nissan ), Tennessee (Nissan), Alabama (Mercedes, Honda and Hyundai), Texas ( Toyota ), and Kentucky (Toyota). The foreigners do have a few plants in the North, too: Honda in Ohio and Indiana, and Toyota and Subaru-Toyota in Indiana."

The reasons could be considered inevitable but are well known. I still do not quite understand why GM closed Saturn.
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Real estate values and the associated revenues from the increasing sales has leaped back to pre recession levels here in California. The amount of new construction and the old standbys of repair/ remodels locally is another healthy sign. The folks I've talked to in both the suppy end and the tradesmen and women are optimistic again.

Just my two cents.
California poised to regain No. 8 ranking in global economy

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalert...l-economy.html

California has a huge diversified economy compared to most states. Controlling the spending by the state house has been the problem racking up deficits like Detroit. But CA has the revenue stream that most nations do not.

Rounding off to five cents since we can afford it.
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California poised to regain No. 8 ranking in global economy

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalert...l-economy.html

California has a huge diversified economy compared to most states. Controlling the spending by the state house has been the problem racking up deficits like Detroit. But CA has the revenue stream that most nations do not.

Rounding off to five cents since we can afford it.
Leaving a penny for the next guy? I do that too.

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Kids these days, eh Pete?

Any body piercings? Nipple rings?
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