9.9 % unemployed

[merrylander]

What ever happened to coal gassification? Or scrubbers, years back in another life I worked for Combustion Engineering, we used to build big (initially) coal fired plants for the pulp and paper companies, Every single one had scrubbers just ahead of the chimneys. They would start up on coal but when it was available they would burn black liquor, something that came from the paper making process that was combustible.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

What ever happened to coal gassification? Or scrubbers, years back in another life I worked for Combustion Engineering, we used to build big (initially) coal fired plants for the pulp and paper companies, Every single one had scrubbers just ahead of the chimneys. They would start up on coal but when it was available they would burn black liquor, something that came from the paper making process that was combustible.

The coal plants have really cleaned up their pollution over the years. And we've got plenty of coal.

IMHO, unless we want to freeze to death in the dark with nothing to eat, we should go with the energy we have while the green energy comes of age.

I can't think of a better way to kill a recovery than to raise the rates on energy consumption. Get America back to work and perhaps then we can afford to deal with some of our other problems.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

The coal plants have really cleaned up their pollution over the years. And we've got plenty of coal.

IMHO, unless we want to freeze to death in the dark with nothing to eat, we should go with the energy we have while the green energy comes of age.

I can't think of a better way to kill a recovery than to raise the rates on energy consumption. Get America back to work and perhaps then we can afford to deal with some of our other problems.

Chas

The "green energy" will never come of age unless we keep pressure on people to make it happen. It has to become less economically viable to burn fossil fuels, and more economically viable to use green energy. It's called "incentive".

And this coming from a guy who drives nothing but gas guzzing V8 hotrods.....But has the sense to know what needs to be done, even if I'm not very good about doing it myself.

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

The "green energy" will never come of age unless we keep pressure on people to make it happen. It has to become less economically viable to burn fossil fuels, and more economically viable to use green energy. It's called "incentive".

And this coming from a guy who drives nothing but gas guzzing V8 hotrods.....But has the sense to know what needs to be done, even if I'm not very good about doing it myself.

Dave

I wouldn't call creating shortages with our current energy supplies until the prices on them rise as to the level of green energy prices an "incentive".

But I would call it "coercion".

Now I can see the big picture, and I'm all in favor of green energy. But I'm not in favor of forcing the issue, especially in today's economic climate.

Give it some time, it will come of age.

Chas

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Charles

I wouldn't call creating shortages with our current energy supplies until the prices on them rise as to the level of green energy prices an "incentive".

But I would call it "coercion".

Now I can see the big picture, and I'm all in favor of green energy. But I'm not in favor of forcing the issue, especially in today's economic climate.

Give it some time, it will come of age.

Chas

While we're "giving it time" the Europeans and the Chinese are forging ahead. We're forfeiting our opportunity to be anything other than the paying customers of foreign corporations.

John

[BlueStreak]

I've seen the whole thing. There is a lesbian scene involving Hillary Clinton and Condoleeza Rice.

I love lesbian porn.

Dave

[merrylander]

To get back to the subject, the reason some European countries, France comes to mind, have so much nuclear power is that they use a common design, our neighbours to the north pretty much do the same, the CANDU reactor. Sure cuts developmeny costs plus you are dealing with a known and proven design.

[BlueStreak]

So, to anyone who is unemployed; Is this you? Are you just a lazy bum looking to suck on the government teet?

http://www.examiner.com/x-51590-Cult...ng-hobos-VIDEO

I know different, but it would seem Republican lawmakers don't.

Dave

[Charles]

There's more than an element of truth to what the Republicans are saying.

Unemployment is paid by a tax levied on employers. Don't lay anyone off, you get a good rate (but you still pay), lay someone off and the rate goes way up.

Right now, I think all of the UE programs are bankrupt in all states. The politicians aren't pulling the money to pay for this out of their asses, they're pulling them out of my ass, and yours as well.

There are still jobs out there. You might wind up wearing the paper hat, but isn't that better than sucking the public tit dry?

Chas

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

There are still jobs out there. You might wind up wearing the paper hat, but isn't that better than sucking the public tit dry?

No.

BTW receiving insurance is not sucking any tit.

That is offensive and shallow. (for the record I work for myself so I personally can't ever receive unemployment insurance)

I will say, I am beginning to understand Sarah's appeal to the wing nuts however.