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Old 04-11-2011, 03:07 PM
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Church - A place for quiet reflection ...

... or packing heat?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...g.html?hpid=z2

I guess this provides yet another reason to avoid going to church.
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Old 04-11-2011, 03:26 PM
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That man is insane, plain and simply insane.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:34 PM
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The man plays to his base. It is a very base base.

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Old 04-11-2011, 09:22 PM
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His premise: "Cuccinelli indicates that the 'right of self-defense lies at the heart of the right to keep and bear arms.'"

seems to be at odds with the Constitution:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Which seems (despite the NRA) to quite clearly link the carrying of firearms to the protection of the State and not the Self.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:59 AM
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Church?

Must be part of the rights desperate desire to make their ideology appear Christ-like.

WWJD? Why pack heat in the Lords House of course. Never know when a brotha might have to jump up and bust a cap in a choir boys ass. Catch an acolyte skimming change out of the offering plate? Ventilate the little f**ers head during communion.......that s**t will never happen again. Hells yeah, dat lil' punk won't nevah disrespect the tithe up in this tip, eveh agin! That's what Glockmaster JC would do!

Seriously, what makes anyone think they would need to sport iron in the pew?

Really.

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Old 04-12-2011, 05:52 AM
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I'm not going to take sides with either faction here but this may explain why someone would want to protect themselves, even in a house of worship. The gulf between a group that believes one thing and another group that believes the opposite is growing ever wider. Who's to say that what we see in this video would not escalate in bodily harm to the people praying at some point?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp0oMKGFTyk
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:39 AM
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This doctor might have benefitted I suppose;

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:53 AM
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When I was a young teen we had a armed madman take over our church. The police ended up having to gun him down while we listened on the floor. I saw the large red hersheys' kisses of kill shot blood 'drips'.

The pastor tried to head him off at the back door. My dad and another member guarded the front unarmed.

I have no doubt folks there would've been pleased to have one of the deacons armed.

Jon, people didn't think like that, here in the States anyway. The militia existed to protect the people which did include the state, as the state existed to serve the people.

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Jon, people didn't think like that, here in the States anyway. The militia existed to protect the people which did include the state, as the state existed to serve the people.

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The militia existed because the Framers did not want a standing army after their expeience with the British troops. Unfortunately there was enough squabbling among the states that Madison's militia proved to be no match for the Irish regimant that burned the White House.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:40 AM
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Yeah, another quandry hard to solve, be "at all times ready for war" without an army.

But militias did predate the Revolution, as did the right to bear arms.

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