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And with my original group/individual observation I was concurring with icenine's observation.
Conditional on what?
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Groups without groups.
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Where there are people, there are groups. Individuals always are in some sorts of groups, unless they are persecuted, or unhealthy.
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Where there are people, there are groups. Individuals always are in some sorts of groups, unless they are persecuted, or unhealthy.
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Being social animals, humans tend to clump together in groups but the "basic unit" of any species is the individual. We are all born as individuals and exist as such until we are integrated into some sort of group.
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Where there are people, there are groups. Individuals always are in some sorts of groups, unless they are persecuted, or unhealthy.
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The persecuted and unhealthy are more often than not members of groups. An example are the homeless living in Dallas who use the library's public internet access.
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The American consumer is funding Big Pharm R&D to the benefit of the corporate* bottom line.
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05-29-2016, 08:19 AM
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You have reading comprehension issues.
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The persecuted and unhealthy are more often than not a members of groups. An example are the homeless living in Dallas who use the library's public internet access.
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Some people are persecuted and/or unhealthy.
Some people who are persecuted and/or unhealthy cannot, for a number of possible reasons, function as members of groups.
I believe the latter subset constitutes nearly all humans who are not members of groups.
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Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of “mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment” (p. 9).
Janis, Irving L. (1972). Victims of Groupthink. New York: Houghton Mifflin.
Janis, Irving L. (1982). Groupthink: Psychological Studies of Policy Decisions and Fiascoes. Second Edition. New York: Houghton Mifflin
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Some people are persecuted and/or unhealthy.
Some people who are persecuted and/or unhealthy cannot, for a number of possible reasons, function as members of groups.
I believe the latter subset constitutes nearly all humans who are not members of groups.
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Lots of folks have problems functioning within a group. Doesn't mean they're not part of one.
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