Si, si puedes. Viva Ceasar!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

I am looking forward to quoting this in the near future.

Does that mean you think there's something wrong with it?

Would you care to honestly discuss what that would be, if so?

Or do you just want to pull a cutsie with the phrase "...commies are leftists..." stripped out of the context of discussion?

[catswiththum]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Hmmm, what do you think, Cats?

Nope.

Although not a fan of Wilson or LBJ (both crooks from opposite ends of the intellectual spectrum), I would like to see a Democratic Party more in the vein of FDR's - while I would probably disagree with many of his initiatives, he was a civil man and valued decorum and protocol when debating the issues.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Would you care to honestly discuss what that would be, if so?

Can it be in the form of a bumper sticker?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Can it be in the form of a bumper sticker?

I don't think so. Wait and see.

[catswiththum]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What you nice people don't seem to understand is that communism as practiced by Stalin and Mao is essentially right wing totalitarianism. The only thin "leftist" about it is rhetoric. From an economic perspective, it's more a form of state capitalism than it is soci@lism.

Pol Pot was just a madman who waved a red flag. He had no ideology beyond total domination and destruction.

I understand it very well, and have read extensively in an effort to understand the human tendency to follow revolutionary madmen of all ilk, as well as the tendency of popular revolutions to devolve and find it necessary to enforce by mass violence and murder their policies proclaiming to free the people from just such bloody injustice.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

Nope.

Although not a fan of Wilson or LBJ (both crooks from opposite ends of the intellectual spectrum), I would like to see a Democratic Party more in the vein of FDR's - while I would probably disagree with many of his initiatives, he was a civil man and valued decorum and protocol when debating the issues.

And it's not really accurate to describe Wilson as being on the left. He was a half-mad racist jerk. The Democratic Party then wasn't as it was post-FDR and [i]certainly not what it has been since LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Say what you will about Johnson - and, in many respects, you'd be right - but he continued the work that FDR began. The Great Society was the lineal descendant of the New Deal.

[CarlV]

This is great! And here I thought Baja California was part of Mexico.


Carl

[catswiththum]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And it's not really accurate to describe Wilson as being on the left. He was a half-mad racist jerk. The Democratic Party then wasn't as it was post-FDR and [i]certainly not what it has been since LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Say what you will about Johnson - and, in many respects, you'd be right - but he continued the work that FDR began. The Great Society was the lineal descendant of the New Deal.

There is no room for the center in today's political climate. I consider myself conservative, but today that seems to have a definition not at all in line with how I think.

The majority are cajoled to line up on one side or the other for the sake of unity and expediency, ideas be damned.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

Well, I don't think the right has the market cornered on death and destruction - the left has more than held it's own the past few decades.




See also: Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.

If you think Stalin was a leftie then that clarifies your posts.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BorisTAnimal

Let's not forget Roosevelt, Wilson, Kennedy, LBJ.

Are you serious?