Israel has invaded Gaza...

[finnbow]

"Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today. Why should we deplore their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate."

- Moshe Dayan at the funeral of a settler killed in a kibbutz near Gaza in 1956.

The people in Gaza have essentially been in a refugee camp for over 65 years now.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

What's particularly galling to a lot of West Bank Palestinians is that Israel has actively recruited Jewish immigrants from all over the world to their shores since 1950 when they enacted their Law of Return, whereby anybody half Jewish (at least at the mother's side) along with any child or grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew can immigrate. In a very short period in the early 1990's, they allowed 1.6 million Russian to immigrate.

A good point.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Meanwhile, believe it or not, there's quite a bit of vacant land in Israel, even for a small country, except on the coast between Tel Aviv and Haifa.

That does surprise me.

Israel is about 8,000 square miles in area and has about 8 million people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

That's pretty close to what New Jersey has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey

I've never been to Israel, but I have been to New Jersey and it's pretty damned crowded to me.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Israel has been under attack from the moment of its inception.

.....and was quite busy murdering people before that, using suicide bombers.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/kd.html

Dave

[Tom Joad]

While we're at it, let's not forget the attack on the USS Liberty.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

[BlueStreak]

But, it's "The Holy Land" and they're "Gods Chosen People". So, Jews and Christians defend all of the ruthless, hateful crap they pull. What's more they have our government sending our tax money to them.

I wonder of I can protest that under the Hobby Lobby ruling? It offends my religious beliefs, (Or lack thereof.) to pay for the defense of Israel. So, why should I be forced to pay for that bullshit with my tax money?

Dave

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

That does surprise me.

Israel is about 8,000 square miles in area and has about 8 million people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

That's pretty close to what New Jersey has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey

I've never been to Israel, but I have been to New Jersey and it's pretty damned crowded to me.

Both have quite a bit of open space. From the pine barrens to the Delaware Water Gap, there's lot of open space in New Jersey. As for Israel, there's virtually no population in Israel south of Beer Sheva (other than Eilat way down south) and a fair amount of open space in the hills between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem as well as in the Galilee. The dense population is from Tel Aviv to Haifa plus the Jerusalem area. Everything else is not particularly densely populated.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

While we're at it, let's not forget the attack on the USS Liberty.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

Excellent point, Tom. Oh, and I'm certain there's more.....

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Thanks, stranger. With my son having now lived there for almost 2 years (supporting our State Department doing construction management in Tel Aviv), I try to keep up with what's going on over there. I go to the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz websites every day to read what's shakin' among God's Chosen People.

"Gods Chosen People"????

Therein lies the crux of the problem.

Chas

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Charles

"Gods Chosen People"????

Therein lies the crux of the problem.

Chas

I should have added a ""