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06-10-2013, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ebacon
Back when I played with ham radio I recall seeing a bunch of ICOM R-7000 receivers for sale on ebay. The seller said they were from a government monitoring station. That was when analog cell phones were unencrypted in the 800 MHz band. Those ICOM radios could receive them.
It's easy to imagine that such spying has continued and probably grown, particularly with the internet.
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It's also easy to imagine that the government, at any point in history, had spies about watching for signs of sedition/insurrection. I'd imagine every government does. Honestly, I'd regard any government that doesn't as being quite stupid and most likely not destined to survive for very long.
Dave
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06-10-2013, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
It's also easy to imagine that the government, at any point in history, had spies about watching for signs of sedition/insurrection. I'd imagine every government does. Honestly, I'd regard any government that doesn't as being quite stupid and most likely not destined to survive for very long.
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I think what scares me more about internet monitoring is that the signal/noise ratio is too low. It's a recipe for roid rage.
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06-08-2013, 11:50 AM
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We just need a little cyber-disobedience.
"Occupy NSA" if you will.
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06-08-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
We just need a little cyber-disobedience.
"Occupy NSA" if you will.
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Dude, they gather all of this "data", then bad stuff happens anyways. This tells me that they're unable to do much with it. Everybody is reacting like President Obama is personally digging around in each and every credit record, financial statement and phone conversation looking for something to screw each and all of us with.........
Really? That's billions of documents and conversations on a daily basis. Who in the heck has time for that and what would be the point anyways?
Call me crazy, but I think they're casting the net for the big fish. I don't think they're worried about what BlueStreak and Wasillaguy are bitching about this afternoon.
Dave
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Last edited by BlueStreak; 06-08-2013 at 12:49 PM.
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06-08-2013, 01:18 PM
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Anything avoid resolving the budget before the next election, even better if you can keep the partisan scandals going as well. The others seem to be deflating somewhat, especially Benghazi.
Yep and the good ole sequester, borrow against the future to keep the airports clear and then hide that under the sequester all federal funding for oil and nuke spill cleanup has gone away even though the spills and leaks haven't. That is where thousands of these layoffs are.
Yep, more important to discuss the loss of privacy that occurred many years ago.
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06-08-2013, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
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Anyone who thinks that the alphabet soup isn't collecting any and all data going out on the net and the waves? has shit fer brains. Can they actually make much sense of it all, unlikely.
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06-10-2013, 01:54 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...459_story.html
Surprise, surprise! This old southpaw tends to agree with this opinion.^
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06-10-2013, 02:02 PM
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Frankly you all have more to worry about from Google, Facebook et. al,
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06-10-2013, 02:09 PM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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It's easier to sift than in Orwells' day, they can use algorithms instead of reading each one.
Pete
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06-10-2013, 03:37 PM
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When I had a listed Xfinity phone I was getting calls from some yahoo in Nigeria (I think) telling me I had won 2 million and a Mercedes. In a lottery I had not entered BTW. Every time I put his number on the non acceptance list he called from a different number. Now if some half assed con man can pull off that stunt ,,,,
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