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Old 03-07-2017, 04:50 PM
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I understand what Finn is saying when explained the"Deep State" as it exists. What these idiots at Fartbreight peddling is something entirely different. More bullshit Republican fear mongering.
Indeed. The notion that Obama is still leading a shadow government is ridiculous fear-mongering and a cover-up for Trump's incompetence and dishonesty. It is certainly true that a number of government professionals are appalled by Trump's dishonesty, incompetence and malice, some so much that they become leakers and whistle-blowers (as in every administration).
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:14 PM
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Typical CYA (or CIA) revisionism. Any assertion that the Bush administration was dragged, kicking and screaming, by low level CIA analysts into the Iraq War is pure ahistorical bullshit.
...and by a deep state guy no less....
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:19 PM
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Indeed. The notion that Obama is still leading a shadow government is ridiculous fear-mongering and a cover-up for Trump's incompetence and dishonesty. It is certainly true that a number of government professionals are appalled by Trump's dishonesty, incompetence and malice, some so much that they become leakers and whistle-blowers (as in every administration).
Really? I thought it was just a month ago that folks were warning not to screw with these career gov't types in the CIA because they were going to "get even with him" after Trump supposedly insulted them. The"bureaucracy has power" we were told.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZt...ature=youtu.be

You guys on the left need to get your stories straight.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:45 PM
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Any assertion that the Bush administration was dragged, kicking and screaming, by low level CIA analysts into the Iraq War is pure ahistorical bullshit.
GS 15's do what they are told.

They have kid's tuition, othodontists bills, big mortages (have you sen the real estate prices in the DC area) and retirement to save for.
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Old 03-07-2017, 06:03 PM
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GS 15's do what they are told.

They have kid's tuition, othodontists bills, big mortages (have you seen the real estate prices in the DC area) and retirement to save for.
I did all of the above and always spoke truth to power. I've also been involved in investigations of malfeasance/corruption exposed by internal whistle-blowers. It takes guts to be a whistle-blower or leaker and they're generally few in number due to the risk one takes on to do so. OTOH, Trump instability, incompetence and irrationality are considered by many to be a threat to the country and they're acting accordingly. If he's clean, he'll be fine (and far fewer of them would exist). Otherwise, they'll eat his lunch.
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Old 03-07-2017, 06:04 PM
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GS 15's do what they are told.

They have kid's tuition, othodontists bills, big mortages (have you sen the real estate prices in the DC area) and retirement to save for.
So they are told. They don't do the telling. Right?

It was Bush's war, not the GS-15's war, right?
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My awareness of the 'deep state' goes back to 1983, when I attended a lecture by this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S...l_(CIA_officer)

My latest read was Snowden's autobiography.

When I say Trump is a puppet / figurehead of unseen forces, I don't mean to exonerate the man. I'm not fear mongering, just telling what I think is going to happen. It all makes sense to me, the withdrawal of US troops from Syria, the release of ISIS terrorists. The whole War On Terror is a fabrication. The CIA made Bin Laden what he was. Trump's in office, apparently to me, because they wanted or felt they needed a clown.
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IMHO, the bipartisan dog and pony show is just there to project an image, an illusion.

And this is how things really get done...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octobe...spiracy_theory

Carter was the last one that wasn't a puppet.
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:27 PM
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WTF is the "deep state"?
Praesontiert! (Here it is!)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep..._United_States
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It doesn't need a "deep state" for the administrative infrastructure to counter Trump's inept bombastic corrosive incompetence, it just takes common sense with a healthy patriotic intent for the welfare of the Nation.
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