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Old 10-31-2017, 12:51 PM
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You've got to dig pretty deep in this AP story to find out that George P didn't cop a plea to anything more than making false statements to the FBI - and we don't know the specifics of those statements - and didn't cop a plea to anything do with "collusion". Yet, the headline blares that the plea deal is a "warning" to Trump and his aids. Really?
Actually, all one had to do was read the charging document. It made very clear that he was charged with making false statements and it was very specific about the false statements in question.

And yes, this is a warning to Trump's minions. Lie to us and we will prosecute you. Cooperate with us and you'll be better off than if you don't.
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:56 PM
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Fine, smart ass. Please point me exactly to where I stated specifically that building a portfolio of opposition research data ("the dossier"), or what George P was or wasn't doing, was "collusion" of any sort.

Not only are you factually challenged, you apparently read things that aren't there either.
From your very own OP in this very thread:

If there was any "Russian collusion", it more likely was between the Clinton State Dept and Russian interests, with the Clinton Foundation as the money-laundering operation.
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:52 PM
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From your very own OP in this very thread:

If there was any "Russian collusion", it more likely was between the Clinton State Dept and Russian interests, with the Clinton Foundation as the money-laundering operation.
Referring specifically to influence pedaling or "skid - greasing" on the uranium deal, not any election - year "collusion". How did you combine Clinton State Department - where she served before the she was a candidate - and gathering opposition research for the election. No wonder your confused about the facts.
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Old 10-31-2017, 03:10 PM
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It was a plea DEAL, meaning that George P only agreed to it in return for something that Mueller wanted. I think it also may be significant - but we're not sure how - that the plea DEAL was only announced yesterday, but occurred much earlier this month.
So he pleads guilty to lying to the FBI in a conspiracy (collusion) with a hostile foreign government. Hummmm Who cares, when it is announced. It is against the law. Actually he was questioned in January, like the 27th so has been on the radar for awile. Little fish uses to catch bigger ones. Normal tactics used by law enforcement all the time. They want the top so will always make deals to accomplish this.


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Old 11-10-2017, 10:23 PM
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The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about Donald Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington, D.C., firm, to conduct the research. Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community.

Elias and his law firm, Seattle-based Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’ research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’ research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.


https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...sia-and-trump/

The entire "Russian collusion" angle is nothing more than Clinton / DNC bull shit that started as a way to undermine the Trump campaign. It has now morphed into political cover for the Clintons and the DNC to excuse their "unexpected" loss in the 2016 election.

If there was any "Russian collusion", it more likely was between the Clinton State Dept and Russian interests, with the Clinton Foundation as the money-laundering operation.

Oh, and remember a week or so ago when Trump was skewered by the media for suggesting that the FBI paid Steele? From the linked article:

After the election, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to continue gathering intelligence, but the bureau pulled out of the arrangement after Steele was publicly identified.
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:40 AM
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It was a plea DEAL, meaning that George P only agreed to it in return for something that Mueller wanted.
You have this funny way of saying things that make no sense, but sort of sound like they do. If I want $20.00, will you agree to give it to me in return for me wanting it?

The plea deal was in return for Mueller not throwing the whole book at a George P for all the time he could get for what Mueller's got on him.
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