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06-11-2012, 01:36 PM
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Do you really think so?
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Honestly, absolutely.
I speak from personal experience which I have documented pretty well here.
Do I know folks like you and Pat treat guns responsibly? Of course.
It's just that the average Joe is a knuckle head not an educated family man.
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06-11-2012, 01:48 PM
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Hollywood needs to accept some blame, all those westerns that glorified the young guns who in fact were teen age hoodlums.
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06-11-2012, 02:36 PM
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I don't have any idea how, but I sure hope something is done somehow.
Everyone wants all these personal freedoms, to carry a gun, to stand ones' ground, and that would be all well and good if we could legislate common sense.
Freedom comes with responsibilities and consequences.
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but I don't believe a convicted felon can carry a weapon. So the level playing field is not there.
Criminals are reportedly purchasing and carrying more weapons than those legally in the hands of licensed holders. Just saying...
Ahhh... http://suite101.com/article/gun-owne...-felons-a71729
Could it be... "the have nots against the legally haves?"
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06-11-2012, 03:09 PM
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Hollywood needs to accept some blame, all those westerns that glorified the young guns who in fact were teen age hoodlums.
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same with the mob and then gang movies
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06-11-2012, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
Honestly, absolutely.
I speak from personal experience which I have documents pretty well here.
Do I know folks like you and Pat treat guns responsibly? Of course.
It's just that the average Joe is a knuckle head not an educated family man.
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That, in a nutshell, surmises my problem with liberals. They assume that people are idiots and that the passing of a law by a fluid group of supposedly superior citizens can thwart the idiocy of other citizens.
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06-11-2012, 06:34 PM
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That, in a nutshell, surmises my problem with liberals. They assume that people are idiots and that the passing of a law by a fluid group of supposedly superior citizens can thwart the idiocy of other citizens.
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It's not an assumption that people (all people) are idiots but that some people are, or at least can't be relied upon to act responsibly in all circumstances. Even a teabagger should be able to agree with that. There are many examples to prove the validity of that idea, not least of them the recent horrors in Florida, Texas and New York.
John
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06-11-2012, 07:24 PM
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As long as we agree it's a people problem and stay away from the knee jerk
reactions I am good with that.
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06-11-2012, 07:42 PM
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I'm all for the mandatory education and registration with a cooling off period for all gun sales, public and private. Chainsaws, too.
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06-11-2012, 07:43 PM
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That, in a nutshell, surmises my problem with liberals. They assume that people are idiots and that the passing of a law by a fluid group of supposedly superior citizens can thwart the idiocy of other citizens.
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Both of you are ad homineying this thing to death
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06-11-2012, 07:49 PM
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Ya know people have been killing people since the beginning of time. More so
before guns were ever even dreamed of. We only became somewhat "civilized" last
century and I'm not so sure we are still headed in that direction. It's a mean
ass world out there in places.
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