Trump 'peace' deals for Israel, UAE and Bahrain are shams

[Chicks]

Trump 'peace' deals for Israel, UAE and Bahrain are shams. They boost oppression, not amity.
The agreements reflect a geopolitical alliance among repressive regimes to expand the U.S. sphere of influence in the Middle East.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...st-ncna1240085

Gee, what a surprise!

[Waggs098]

I don't think the middle East will ever have peace for any extended period of time. They have fought forever and will continue until endtimes or a major war.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

I don't think the middle East will ever have peace for any extended period of time. They have fought forever and will continue until endtimes or a major war.

Is Trump's action here a genuine attempt in the direction of peace or just gimmicks, headlines for election?

What is your opinion?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Is Trump's action here a genuine attempt in the direction of peace or just gimmicks, headlines for election?

What is your opinion?

Normalizing relations between an Arab state and Israel seems like a good idea to me regardless of timing. The answer could be both.

The OP opinion peice strikes me as Fourth Estate electioneering.

[Oerets]

Until the Palestinians are included little chance at a peaceful solution IMO!

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by nailer

Normalizing relations between an Arab state and Israel seems like a good idea to me regardless of timing. The answer could be both.

The OP opinion peice strikes me as Fourth Estate electioneering.

Nailer lives up to his name!

[Chicks]

The mirage of Trump’s ‘peace’ deals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...kosovo-serbia/

The two big deals trumpeted by the White House this month are not the victories for “peace” that Trump claims they are. Start with the main event this week: Both the UAE and Bahrain already communicate and engage with Israel, and the three countries were not locked in anything close to conflict. “The UAE-Israel strategic relationship was fueled by mutual fears of Iran and formalized by the United States,” Karim Sadjadpour, a Middle East analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, told my colleagues. “It’s an example of Trump slapping his name on a hotel that was essentially already built.”

“It is hard to identify a single point of progress concerning Israeli-Palestinian peace that is the result of U.S. intervention,” noted Grace Wermenbol of the Middle East Institute. “Trump’s preternatural, pro-Israel policy has alienated the Palestinian Authority and challenged the U.S.' ability to act as an impartial mediator. Beyond a clear diplomatic re-evaluation of the Palestinian cause, the UAE’s normalization of ties with Israel is unlikely to offer much more.”

Other experts also lament that the Trump administration is not using its leverage with the UAE for actual peace — that is, applying pressure to compel the Emiratis and Saudis to draw down their U.S.-backed war effort in Yemen. A recent New York Times report found mounting concerns among State Department officials over U.S. culpability in Yemeni civilian casualties at the hands of the Saudi-led coalition. The violence there — and the American role in enabling it — is slated to be the subject of a congressional hearing on Wednesday.

“As long as the United States is selling sophisticated weapons to the UAE, it should not hesitate to apply maximum pressure on the UAE to curtail its human rights abuses, to push for an end to the Yemen conflict, to back off of its arm-twisting of Qatar, and to press the Saudis to begin a dialogue with Iran that could, in time, help ease the Saudi-Iran confrontation that undermines regional stability and security,” wrote former U.S. diplomats Aaron David Miller and Richard Sokolsky.

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“The quick unraveling of the agreement in a matter of days is a measure of the amateurish, slapdash nature of Trump administration negotiations,” wrote Daniel Larison of the American Conservative. “They can’t resolve any major issues, so they settle for the lowest-hanging fruit, and even then they seem incapable of nailing down those details. They refuse to do the necessary preparatory work that ensures that an announced agreement will actually be implemented, and that is because the president just wants the good publicity and couldn’t care less about the substance.”

It's obviously window dressing for Donny and his authoritarian pals, according to many who actually know what they're talking about...

[Oerets]

Ganging up on Iran maybe?

Pathway to peace?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Until the Palestinians are included little chance at a peaceful solution IMO!

Prior approaches have always included asking the Palestinians to come to the table, while with a wink and a nod we say we don't bargain with terrorists.

The difference this time is that we leave the Palestinians on the sidelines. Build partnerships all around them that don't include them, and when they start feeling like the world is leaving them behind maybe they'll want to come to the table without asked. Then, unlike before, maybe the Palestinians will use the bargaining process to access a meaningful role in a world where peace is in everyone's interests, including their own.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by whell

Prior approaches have always included asking the Palestinians to come to the table, while with a wink and a nod we say we don't bargain with terrorists.

The difference this time is that we leave the Palestinians on the sidelines. Build partnerships all around them that don't include them, and when they start feeling like the world is leaving them behind maybe they'll want to come to the table without asked. Then, unlike before, maybe the Palestinians will use the bargaining process to access a meaningful role in a world where peace is in everyone's interests, including their own.

This is Iran's common adversaries getting together. Leaving the Palestinians to suffer.