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Old 01-02-2018, 12:20 PM
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Trump lashes out at imaginary boogieman.

No, the dumbass in chief is screaming about the "Deep State".

Let's see, where have we heard this unhinged shit before?

Oh, yeah. The guy who thinks this "Deep State" was behind the Las Vegas Massacre;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=0nsuVkFKJIE

That the "Deep State" is why Roy Moore was defeated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=plU8wTtCwCc

And on and on and on for YEARS. There are literally THOUSANDS of clips of this nut bags insane rantings. This was the lunatic that fomented the reaction to JADE HELM, insisting that Obama was in cahoots with the UN to sack Lubbock, Texas.

Your presidents guiding light is A RAVING LUNATIC.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:35 PM
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If there truly were a “deep state”, surely it would have disposed of Donny by now...
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:07 PM
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No, the dumbass in chief is screaming about the "Deep State".

Let's see, where have we heard this unhinged shit before?

Oh, yeah. The guy who thinks this "Deep State" was behind the Las Vegas Massacre;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=0nsuVkFKJIE

That the "Deep State" is why Roy Moore was defeated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=plU8wTtCwCc

And on and on and on for YEARS. There are literally THOUSANDS of clips of this nut bags insane rantings. This was the lunatic that fomented the reaction to JADE HELM, insisting that Obama was in cahoots with the UN to sack Lubbock, Texas.

Your presidents guiding light is A RAVING LUNATIC.
Over 55 years ago, Dwight Eisenhower warned us against the "military - industrial complex", which would have fit nicely within the definition of the deep state. I guess Ike was a raving lunatic as well?

From the Politico:

At a conference in mid-July, Barack Obama’s CIA director, John Brennan, remarked that executive branch officials have an “obligation … to refuse to carry out” outrageous or anti-democratic orders from President Donald Trump. The comment quickly caught the attention of Rush Limbaugh, who saw nothing short of a threat to the republic. “He practically called for a coup!” the radio host bellowed on the air a few days later, warning of a plot orchestrated by “embeds in the deep state at the Pentagon, State Department, various intelligence agencies.”

Embeds in the what? A year ago, the term “deep state” was the province of Edward Snowden acolytes and fans of paperback espionage thrillers. Today, Limbaugh takes it for granted that his millions of listeners know what it meant.

The deep state entered America’s national discourse in 2017 with the feeling of an already familiar character, ready to assume a starring role as hero or villain—depending on how you feel about Trump. It’s easy to dismiss the idea as the breathless complaint of a frustrated president who hasn’t learned to work the system. But it’s not that simple: There really is a kind of cabal that operates independently of elected officials in Washington—even if it’s not quite what Trump or his conservative allies think it is.


Political scientists and foreign policy experts have used the term deep state for years to describe individuals and institutions who exercise power independent of—and sometimes over—civilian political leaders. They applied it mainly to developing countries like Algeria, Pakistan, Egypt and Turkey, where generals and spies called the real shots in nominally democratic societies and replaced elected leaders when they saw fit. (Turkey and Egypt have recently moved to more overt security-state dictatorships, in which the deep state is the only state.)

For a generation, the people who saw something like an American deep state—even if they rarely called it that—resided on the left, not the right. The 9/11 attacks triggered the rapid growth of an opaque security and intelligence machine often unaccountable to the civilian legal system. In the 2000s, the critique focused on a “war machine” of military and intelligence officials, defense contractors and neoconservative ideologues who, in some versions, took orders directly from Vice President Dick Cheney. In the Obama era, the focus shifted to the eerie precision of “targeted killings” by drones, and then the furor over Snowden, the ex-National Security Agency contractor whose 2013 leaks exposed the astonishing reach of the government’s surveillance. “There’s definitely a deep state,” Snowden told the Nation in 2014. “Trust me, I’ve been there.”

Even measured academics began to describe a dual-state system in the United States, the focus of Tufts University international law professor Michael J. Glennon’s 2014 book, National Security and Double Government. Glennon observed that Obama had campaigned against Bush-era surveillance and security policies in 2008 but acquiesced to many of them as president—suggesting a national-security apparatus that holds sway even over the elected leaders notionally in charge of it.


If anything, maybe Trump is now educated on the inner workings of the relatively unaccountable government bureaucracy that others have observed for years.

The article is written by Michael Crowley, who is certainly no right wing ideologue. He may disagree with Trump about what the "deep state" is and how it manifests itself, but he certainly doesn't dismiss the idea that there are folks within government who are capable of acting against the interests of the President or other elected officials.

I guess he's a raving lunatic as well?
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:18 PM
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Wouldn't an imaginary boogeyman be real?
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I guess he's a raving lunatic as well?
He is not. Thanks for the link.

The deep state is a natural outcome: From some of those who inhabit, connected to governmental organs for a very long time and view a president as a guy who is passing through.

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Over 55 years ago, Dwight Eisenhower warned us against the "military - industrial complex", which would have fit nicely within the definition of the deep state. I guess Ike was a raving lunatic as well?
You've reached a new low comparing Trump to Ike. Trump is a paranoid, narcissistic, know-nothing lunatic and Ike is an American hero.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:36 PM
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You've reached a new low comparing Trump to Ike. Trump is a paranoid, narcissistic, know-nothing lunatic and Ike is an American hero.
So we go with Ike.
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So we go with Ike.
You too, eh? Why am I not surprised?
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:39 PM
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You've reached a new low comparing Trump to Ike. Trump is a paranoid, narcissistic, know-nothing lunatic and Ike is an American hero.
I Like Ike.

No fake bone spurs to avoid his moral duty. A national hero vs a national disgrace. No contest.
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Trump will quite possibly do more for this country than any recent President.

Hell, Obama did nothing other than be a place mat for eight years.
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