"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Dealt with already. You continue to get it wrong, including the part about not having a replacement. Flail on.

BS. Already responded to this in an earlier post.

I'm sure you would.

You're immune to reason and have lost your soul. Fuck it.

[68custom]

Originally Posted by whell

Dealt with already. You continue to get it wrong, including the part about not having a replacement. Flail on.



BS. Already responded to this in an earlier post.



I'm sure you would.

Using the word "access" does not mean every one will be illegible for supplemented heath-care!

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by 68custom

Using the word "access" does not mean every one will be illegible for supplemented heath-care!

"Äccess" is a bullshit word.

Everyone in this country has "access" to top quality healthcare.

As long as they have good insurance and/or a shitload of money.

If they don't, they're fucked.

And by good insurance I don't mean a Goddamned High Deductible Piece of Shit Obamacare Bronze Plan.

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[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Dealt with already. You continue to get it wrong, including the part about not having a replacement. Flail on.

Is this where Finn is flailing?

The Republican Health Plan That Doesn't Repeal Obamacare

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...macare/514175/

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

If it has already been mentioned, my oversight, but Google up Bill Clinton's immigration speech - he could sue Trump for plagerism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdfMjIELTHY

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Is this where Finn is flailing?

The Republican Health Plan That Doesn't Repeal Obamacare

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...macare/514175/

Flailing in so many ways that's I've lost count.

Cassidy's bill will likely go nowhere, but it's one of a number of options that are under consideration. The Repubs have no intention of putting forth a massive, unwieldy bill like the ACA as a replacement. The plan is to introduce a number a smaller measures that will effective remove key unpopular provisions of the ACA awhile introducing other reforms than are more in line with their thinking.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You're immune to reason and have lost your soul. Fuck it.

Evidence that you're completely out of gas.

One other element of Obamacare that the Repubs had zero control over was Obama's choice of Sebelius to implement it. She gave incompetence a bad name and lost her job because of it.

[icenine]

Obamacare can't be repealed or modified without a huge displacement of patients . The Republicans can't replace it because it is actually a Republican health care plan to begin with. All their talk about keeping the good parts is total bullshit. They can only go left with single payer or public option and that won't happen. They can't go right because many people in red states (Kentucky for example) are on the ACA and would howl in protest. Any dissolution of Obamacare will be replaced by something that will be known as Chumpcare.

[Rajoo]

If you give states opt out options, wonder how many red states will opt out?

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

Obamacare can't be repealed or modified without a huge displacement of patients .

Baloney

Originally Posted by icenine

The Republicans can't replace it because it is actually a Republican health care plan to begin with.

Baloney

Originally Posted by icenine

All their talk about keeping the good parts is total bullshit. They can only go left with single payer or public option and that won't happen.

Baloney

Originally Posted by icenine

They can't go right because many people in red states (Kentucky for example) are on the ACA and would howl in protest.

Baloney

Originally Posted by icenine

Any dissolution of Obamacare will be replaced by something that will be known as Chumpcare.

I'm sure you believe all this, which is kinda sad. There a number of options that could be considered. How about something like this as an option just of the top of my head, just to demonstrate:

- end employer / employee tax deductions for employer sponsored health care premiums.

- leave the medicaid expansion in place

- use technology to give individuals access to low/no cost wellness and preventative services through licensed local pharmacies.

- kill medicare

- overhaul the FDA and allow public (colleges & universities) / private partnerships for ISO certified clinical trials to reduce the requirement for federal oversight while creating a streamlined, lower cost and faster process to get pharmaceuticals to market. Overhaul patent protection laws to reduce protections for pharmaceuticals that are brought to market through this process.

- privatize or license the exchanges. With the savings from killing medicare and ending employer / employee tax premium tax deductions, allow carriers to offer core policies for low / no cost and allow individuals to buy up or customize policies as their needs allow. Kill state coverage mandates and allow carrier to offer their core products across state lines.

- expand "tele-medicine" services. Leverage medical training universities (i.e. U of Mich, NYU, etc.) to expand tele-medicine services at a low cost.

And that's just off the top of my head. There's are countless ideas about how the systems for patient care, billing, service deliver and medical product and processes could be overhauled to expand access and reduce costs.