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07-18-2014, 09:34 AM
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Doesn't it bother you that Putin has been in power for over a decade now and appears to be fixing elections? Not to mention his "stint" as Prime Minister under Mededyev. I guess he did not want to appear too obvious like the old Kremlin leaders like Stalin and Breshnev. And who ever replaces him someday will do the same thing, and could be worse than Putin.
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07-18-2014, 09:58 AM
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Doesn't it bother you that Putin has been in power for over a decade now and appears to be fixing elections? Not to mention his "stint" as Prime Minister under Mededyev. I guess he did not want to appear too obvious like the old Kremlin leaders like Stalin and Breshnev. And who ever replaces him someday will do the same thing, and could be worse than Putin.
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That man (I use the word loosely) is evil personified, no way is there going to be someone worse.
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07-18-2014, 10:23 AM
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Doesn't it bother you that Putin has been in power for over a decade now and appears to be fixing elections? Not to mention his "stint" as Prime Minister under Mededyev. I guess he did not want to appear too obvious like the old Kremlin leaders like Stalin and Breshnev. And who ever replaces him someday will do the same thing, and could be worse than Putin.
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I yield to extenuating circumstances.
The oligarch Boris Berezovsky and his clique which became very powerful under the drunkard Yeltsin, brought the low level KGB colonel to succeed Yeltsin, but as a puppet.
Surprise, surprise Putin did not play their game. He instituted reforms, notably taxation. The oligarchs were jolted now that they had to pay reasonable taxes, that their political clout was reduced and the free wheeling disorganized system was over.
A lot of them resisted but then had to flee...Berezovsky. Abramovich, Gusinsky etc.
This inflamed papa George Soros, who tried all types of tricks -NGOs, funny demonstrations etc. Only a man of Putin capability could survive, could rebalance the state and save it from looters with foreign tentacles.
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07-18-2014, 01:11 PM
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I yield to extenuating circumstances.
The oligarch Boris Berezovsky and his clique which became very powerful under the drunkard Yeltsin, brought the low level KGB colonel to succeed Yeltsin, but as a puppet.
Surprise, surprise Putin did not play their game. He instituted reforms, notably taxation. The oligarchs were jolted now that they had to pay reasonable taxes, that their political clout was reduced and the free wheeling disorganized system was over.
A lot of them resisted but then had to flee...Berezovsky. Abramovich, Gusinsky etc.
This inflamed papa George Soros, who tried all types of tricks -NGOs, funny demonstrations etc. Only a man of Putin capability could survive, could rebalance the state and save it from looters with foreign tentacles.
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Spin up some 'Pussy Riot' and have a martini Don.
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07-18-2014, 01:31 PM
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Many in the west who disparage Putin would be supporting him if they were Russians.
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07-18-2014, 01:49 PM
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Many in the west who disparage Putin would be supporting him if they were Russians.
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If chickens had lips, they wouldn't have to eat with their peckers.
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07-18-2014, 01:58 PM
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Many in the west who disparage Putin would be supporting him if they were Russians.
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Like expat Germans in the USA did in the 1930s no doubt.
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07-18-2014, 02:01 PM
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Many in the west who disparage Putin would be supporting him if they were Russians.
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Ronnie's Kids?
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07-18-2014, 02:05 PM
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Where's the OP? We need to hear how it's all Obie's fault .
C'mon Mike, you know you want to say it.
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07-18-2014, 02:38 PM
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Well it is, isn't it? Let me think on this. Nope, it's George the Lessor's fault. Wait, it's really Clinton's responsibility. Thinking some more - Bush the Elder? Come to think of it, it's the seductive Ronald Regan's fault. Fuck it all, let's blame Truman.
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