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10-08-2010, 04:39 PM
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That is the reason i asked, are these truly the kind of people who should be running the government the kind that believe they have to make the other person look bad all the time instead of trying to better themselves and the country Isn't this the reason of the government not being as good as it set out to be, to much human ambition for position and not enough actual talent and ability, just because you can slander someone else doesn't mean that you can run a nation.
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10-08-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Achilles
That is the reason i asked, are these truly the kind of people who should be running the government the kind that believe they have to make the other person look bad all the time instead of trying to better themselves and the country Isn't this the reason of the government not being as good as it set out to be, to much human ambition for position and not enough actual talent and ability, just because you can slander someone else doesn't mean that you can run a nation.
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The democracy we have today is a far cry from the democracy practiced by the ancient Greeks, or even by our revered "Founding Fathers." In Greece the democracy was only among the aristocracy - it didn't include slaves or women. By and large the only ones to participate in the direct democracy practiced then were considerable educated than others.
When the Constitution was set up to assure democracy for we the people, the people included only propertied white men. Slaves were excluded, tenant farmers were excluded, and women were considered chattel owned by their husbands, who certainly could not be entrusted with the vote.
It is much easier to manipulate public opinion with the boob tube than it was to sway the opinions of the aristocracy. It's the trade-off we have made. Today's reality is that actual democracy only occurs when the money people make an error in crafting their talking points, or when an outsider gets hot before he or she can be bought.
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D-Ray
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10-09-2010, 08:06 PM
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The REPUBLIC Regards,
D-Ray
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Correction made. You lefty's just twist, spin, lie, and are just stupid.
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10-09-2010, 11:57 PM
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Correction made. You lefty's just twist, spin, lie, and are just stupid.
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WOW! That was inspiring! You're posts are always so stimulating and thought provoking. I am amazed that with you being the only thing that keeps the world economy alive, you have anytime at all to stop by and impart upon us your deep and wonderous wisdom.
Dave
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Last edited by BlueStreak; 10-10-2010 at 01:47 AM.
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10-10-2010, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by djv8ga
Correction made. You lefty's just twist, spin, lie, and are just stupid.
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Your alteration makes no sense, unless you are suggesting that, because we have a republican form of government, we have no democracy. If you have a issue with the history included in the above post, read the Constitution, read an American history book, and get your understanding of American history and the Constitution from someone other that the Fox jester, who makes it up as he goes along.
Now, if you want to talk about intelligence, demonstrate that you have some and give us a logical explanation of what you see as spinning or a lie, and tell us what evidence you rely on to conclude that it is a lie. In the absence of evidence to support your conclusion, I will assume that it is false. Similarly, if you can't do better than the above in expressing your disagreement, you might want to reconsider who has earned the stupid tag.
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D-Ray
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