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Old 09-28-2013, 11:42 PM
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The Tea Party Way, Governing By Extortion

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So much for the full faith and credit of the United States.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:11 AM
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Not being partisan here, but it seems to me this fight wouldn't exist if a realistic budget was passed and they actually stuck to it. I don't agree with the GOP tactics, but I also don't see the logic in having to raise the debt ceiling again and again at the end of every year.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:01 AM
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Yes, creating a budget and then having to vote many times to fund it is rather silly. The budget was done and Republicans voted for funding the PPACA parts of it then.
This is just a bunch of punk terrorists trying to hold my country hostage while they run it into the ground. No logical person would negotiate with thugs like these and I certainly hope they don't.

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Mitt Romney ran his campaign hard on repealing PPACA. Obama ran on putting it in place. The voters voted. Guess who won?



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Old 09-29-2013, 11:12 AM
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If the Congress & Senate is ever serious about developing a budget, they would start this at the beginning of each year. The left has never seen a social program that it does not like and the right a tax break it cannot justify. So it's really about political campaigning and little to do with governance. The Tea Party has now made this a political blackmail.

So the debt ceiling needs increase to keep up with inflation. Throw in an war or two and a few natural disasters, deficits grow even more.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:53 AM
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Not being partisan here, but it seems to me this fight wouldn't exist if a realistic budget was passed and they actually stuck to it. I don't agree with the GOP tactics, but I also don't see the logic in having to raise the debt ceiling again and again at the end of every year.
I don't see the logic in having a debt ceiling, we are the only industrialized nation that farts about with such childish crap
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Yes, creating a budget and then having to vote many times to fund it is rather silly. The budget was done and Republicans voted for funding the PPACA parts of it then.
This is just a bunch of punk terrorists trying to hold my country hostage while they run it into the ground. No logical person would negotiate with thugs like these and I certainly hope they don't.

And besides,


Mitt Romney ran his campaign hard on repealing PPACA. Obama ran on putting it in place. The voters voted. Guess who won?


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Not being partisan here, but it seems to me this fight wouldn't exist if a realistic budget was passed and they actually stuck to it. I don't agree with the GOP tactics, but I also don't see the logic in having to raise the debt ceiling again and again at the end of every year.
I don't see the sense in having one.
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Used to be, elections meant something.
So, you are saying the election of the House meant nothing ? The biggest reason the Republicans have the House is Obamacare.
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So, you are saying the election of the House meant nothing ? The biggest reason the Republicans have the House is Obamacare.
No.

The biggest reason Republicans have the House is criminal redistricting.
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