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Old 02-07-2019, 12:18 AM
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Most Americans agree it's time to put an end to late term abortion.
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...term-abortions

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Old 02-07-2019, 07:05 AM
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The piece refers to poll results? Reliable polling that did not reduce the complexities of this issue to simple black and white, and did not push a point of view?
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:53 AM
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Most Americans agree it's time to put an end to late term abortion.
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...term-abortions
Heavily biased article loaded with buzzwords and nonsense about what appears a push poll about an emotionally charged non-issue.

Maybe something less so;
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahae.../#6e8840c65cf8
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Old 02-07-2019, 11:00 AM
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On the subject of prenatal abortion, how about solutions that render it electively unnecessary?
A good majority of Planned Parenthood services did just that. "Outlawing" PP eliminates those services without replacing them, it's entirely possible to be in favor of PP and fetal/host health support promotion, pre and post natal.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:20 AM
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What would do the most good for the most folk would be for all to co-operate to avoid having to even consider abortion in all but medically mandated cases. This means prenatal and postnatal care and assistance for the principal parties involved.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:59 AM
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Slips will happen no matter what.

Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?

Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?

Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?

It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:11 PM
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Slips will happen no matter what.

Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?

Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?

Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?

It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
No, there's not.
However, I think it's possible to be a "pro-life" person without being rabidly anti-abortion to the exclusion of everything else.
Something to consider in all this is whether the fetus has better legal protection status as the property of the host than as a nonviable dependent "person" with all the potential legal complications.
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Slips will happen no matter what.

Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?

Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?

Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?

It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
No, there's not.
However, I think it's possible to be a "pro-life" person without being rabidly anti-abortion to the exclusion of everything else.
Something to consider in all this is whether the fetus has better legal protection status as the property of the host than as a non-viable dependent "person" with all the potential legal complications.
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Slips will happen no matter what.

Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?

Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?

Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?

It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
Here’s What I Want Donald Trump And Everyone Else To Know About My 'Late-Term Abortion'
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b09293b20a8263
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:17 AM
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Here’s What I Want Donald Trump And Everyone Else To Know About My 'Late-Term Abortion'
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b09293b20a8263
You have to be a very black-and-white thinker to say that woman made the wrong decision. You have to be very authoritarian to want to take the ability to make that decision away from her.
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