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Old 09-07-2013, 01:49 AM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3881118.html


At the least the Democrats would probably get the House next year
The "worst" would be a Biden Presidency.

And from what I can see there is no Republican Jimmy Carter waiting in the wings in 2016.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:12 PM
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Significant Differences State To State re Obamacare

It seems the Eastern Seaboard, Far West and various Mid-West states will have it better than some Republican controlled ones. Some of the Republican states who did not set up exchanges will nevertheless cooperate with the Federal exchanges. Others like Texas seemed to be fighting it tooth and nail.
Texas has 6 million uninsured by the way.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...,2881371.story

Does not make sense. Anyway maybe Cruz will take all the credit once Texas finally accepts Obamacare in a few years. It is inevitable. Denying the access to affordable health care is not going to go down too well there.
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:40 AM
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It seems the Eastern Seaboard, Far West and various Mid-West states will have it better than some Republican controlled ones. Some of the Republican states who did not set up exchanges will nevertheless cooperate with the Federal exchanges. Others like Texas seemed to be fighting it tooth and nail.
Texas has 6 million uninsured by the way.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...,2881371.story

Does not make sense. Anyway maybe Cruz will take all the credit once Texas finally accepts Obamacare in a few years. It is inevitable. Denying the access to affordable health care is not going to go down too well there.
If only they would just stop lying about it.



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Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:56pm EDT

* Health insurer refunds drop by half in 2012 vs 2011

* Government says insurers are reining in premiums

* Each family to receive average of $100 back

June 20 (Reuters) - U.S. insurers will pay $500 million in rebates to employers and individuals this summer because of President Barack Obama's healthcare law, about half the amount they paid last year.

The law, often called Obamacare, requires companies to refund customers when they spend less than 80 percent of premiums they collect on medical care.

The Department of Health and Human Services attributed the decline in rebates to insurers' adhering more closely to this requirement and to lowering premium rates for their products.


The government agency said on Thursday that 8.5 million insurance customers would receive an average rebate of about $100 per family after August 1. For 2011, 4.1 million people received about $152 per family, or a total of $1.1 billion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0EW13820130620
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WASHINGTON | Sat Sep 7, 2013 2:10pm EDT

Senator John Barrasso said in the weekly Republican address released on Saturday that the Affordable Care Act is hurting middle-class Americans.

"Many families are going to have real sticker shock when they see their new insurance rates - even families who get government subsidies," Barrasso, an orthopedic surgeon, said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9860EB20130907

Jeez Louise

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Old 09-08-2013, 12:07 PM
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Jeez Louise

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What kills me is how people say it will force employers not to hire full time workers over 40 hours so they can avoid being responsible for providing health insurance.


I have seen that going out here in Cali for years.
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What kills me is how people say it will force employers not to hire full time workers over 40 hours so they can avoid being responsible for providing health insurance.


I have seen that going out here in Cali for years.
That's right, nothing new. Of course the only answer to that is to eliminate the need for employer sponsored healthcare altogether........through single-payer. Leaving it to their good nature to provide is a fools venture, as so many of them have no good nature to speak of.

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That's right, nothing new. Of course the only answer to that is to eliminate the need for employer sponsored healthcare altogether........through single-payer. Leaving it to their good nature to provide is a fools venture, as so many of them have no good nature to speak of.

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Bingo!

Single payer is the only way and the quicker the better. Employers have no business in employees lives past their work shift.
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Maybe the voters will get smart and vote down the Cruzmissile.
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Maybe the voters will get smart and vote down the Cruzmissile.
If we could be so lucky!

He is a pretty smart guy he might wake up one morning and decide to ditch the big lie. However if he turns out to be too much like his old man I think people will eventually get tired of him. Who knows maybe he is already funneling pork to Texas just no one has noticed. That is what McConnell is really good at..why Kentucky always re-elects him.
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How do you know when a Republican is lying?

When his lips are moving.
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I can't figure out why so many people believe the BS about SinglePayer that BigPharma and others pays OpEd writers to publish. I saw top of the line speci@lists whenever I needed them, made my own doctor's appointments at time convenient for me. I have wasted more time in Waiting (So called Emergency) Rooms here than I ever did back there. And at 82 I do not take prescription drugs, mainly because I got preventative care, nobody pays for that down here.
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