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Old 08-27-2013, 08:54 AM
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How long is it between working for $10 bucks an hour and getting full time benefits at $13 an hour? Months?
Yes. Either 3 or 6 months, I don't remember.

Remember this is an entry level warehouse job. Easy to say they need to be paid $20, very difficult to pay it.

I made $3.18/hr my first real job. Netted perhaps $105-110 a week (I think it was $107 actually, but grey matter is dying ). Going to an inflation calc online I see that's equivalent to about $7.15.

I blame rich people like you guys 'Rich' is relative.

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Old 08-27-2013, 09:47 AM
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Yes. Either 3 or 6 months, I don't remember.

Remember this is an entry level warehouse job. Easy to say they need to be paid $20, very difficult to pay it.

I made $3.18/hr my first real job. Netted perhaps $105-110 a week (I think it was $107 actually, but grey matter is dying ). Going to an inflation calc online I see that's equivalent to about $7.15.

I blame rich people like you guys 'Rich' is relative.

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The difference is they are paying it, jut to the temp agency. Why not do away with the temp agency and pay the employee from the get go. I still can't figure out the need for more middle men (Worked for temp agencies before. They make a hefty sum)
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:00 AM
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Oh they're getting the $10. The temp agency its probably charging upwards of $15-18.

When I sold temp help we were charging $12.50/hr for a $6/hr pay.

Which was more than what everyone else, including most of my coworkers, was paying ($5), I'd get the pick of the temp pool that way . Which sadly still wasn't great

There are legit reasons for using temp services to find new hires, most due to the turnover I mentioned previously.

Interesting sidenote, I bumped into a lot of racism in very small blue collar businesses. 'Can you get me a white guy?'

Keep in mind this was over 25 years ago now and I started cold calling from the back of the telephone book, lots of eastern European guys. Anyway I told them the truth - not only is it illegal, the blue collar working black guys were much more reliable overall than whatever white golden-boy temp we could supply that week.

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Old 08-27-2013, 10:37 AM
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If your company gave the worker 13 bucks with a probationary 90 days and then benefits they might stay longer. I think your company would rather pay the temp agency and continue with the temp help because it is cheaper in the long run than giving people benefits.

I bet your place is back breaking work not worth $10 maybe that is why no one stays.
The guys that leave probably know the game and go onto better things hopefully.
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We don't have permanent temps here. People who don't get let go here during their temp period (which is the same as probationary period), usually but not always for tardiness / failure to show (sometimes for general laziness or intoxication) tend to stay. We have low turnover among permanent hires. It's not back breaking. Overall it's a pretty good place to work for.

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Even for Ohio $10 bucks has to be barely enough to scrape by on. What is awful is that my wife makes about the same here in Cali....at a Casino. She is more fortunate because of course she has my income to fall back on. But it has to be hell on earth for anyone making so low an amount here without another income to fall back on. That is why everyone is working three jobs when one used to do.
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Even for Ohio $10 bucks has to be barely enough to scrape by on. What is awful is that my wife makes about the same here in Cali....at a Casino. She is more fortunate because of course she has my income to fall back on. But it has to be hell on earth for anyone making so low an amount here without another income to fall back on. That is why everyone is working three jobs when one used to do.
It's tough sledding out there, and I feel sorry for anyone who is chained to the millstone of debt...whether they have a good job or not. The good job can disappear in a heartbeat. Debt doesn't.

Since I don't hang out with the ultra wealthy, the few people I know who are not only comfortable, but confident, are those who made enough to rathole a pile, those that inherited a pile, an insurance agent who managed both, a few with private pensions, and mostly those with a government pension. And they're not rich...but safe...for the time being.

But for the average couple, with two jobs, two kids, two cars, a house, a credit card...and are basically just paying interest on all of it...I can see how a few months of hard luck will leave them on the street.

And I don't see things improving that much, if at all.

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The good job can disappear in a heartbeat.
I noticed.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:37 PM
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But Will They Nullify Medicare and Social Security

John C. Calhoun will never die it seems:

http://www.metropulse.com/news/2013/...nullify-feder/
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