Socalled 'Right To Work' Law Repealed in Michigan

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by GChief

The farm kid in me wants to know what the problem is having teenagers do hard or dangerous labor?

Problem is that kids lack knowledge and good judgment they need to negotiate risk on the job. Further, their immature judgement can make them exploitable, as can impovrishment. Unaccompanied minor immigrants who must support themselves and fall through the social welfare cracks here are highly exploited.

Farm parents can generally be trusted to try to protect their own children's safety, but strangers are more likely to be careless of it.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Problem is that kids lack knowledge and good judgment they need to negotiate risk on the job. Further, their immature judgement can make them exploitable, as can impovrishment. Unaccompanied minor immigrants who must support themselves and fall through the social welfare cracks here are highly exploited.

Farm parents can generally be trusted to try to protect their own children's safety, but strangers are more likely to be careless of it.

I get all that. That was more a smartass question for those that think teenagers should not be doing any "hard labor"...

Actually listened to an NPR report on it yesterday and the above is what many think.

And from my personal experience being a farm worker from 12-18, my family would let me die before the "strangers" I worked for.

[Merlin]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Problem is that kids lack knowledge and good judgment they need to negotiate risk on the job. Further, their immature judgement can make them exploitable...

...And yet the left wants to believe that they have sufficient "knowledge and good judgement" to be able to decide whether they want a penis when they are 11 years old.

What does science say about that?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Merlin

...And yet the left wants to believe that they have sufficient "knowledge and good judgement" to be able to decide whether they want a penis when they are 11 years old.

What does science say about that?

Science says to assess the child carefully, and if warranted, preserve the option for gender reassignment in the future.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Merlin

...And yet the left wants to believe that they have sufficient "knowledge and good judgement" to be able to decide whether they want a penis when they are 11 years old.

What does science say about that?

Show me a direct, verified quote where a prominent Democratic politician has said that he/she believes that 11 year olds have sufficient knowledge and good judgment to be able to decide whether they want a penis.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Show me a direct, verified quote where a prominent Democratic politician has said that he/she believes that 11 year olds have sufficient knowledge and good judgment to be able to decide whether they want a penis.

How about a publication from HHS on "gender-affirming care" (which is a cute euphemism) which advocates that minors have access to things like hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and sex reassignment surgery. The HHS publication calls access to such services for minors "crucial".

Regarding the specific comment about 11-year-olds deciding if they want a penis, I don't think any smart politician of any stripe would go on record with something like that. There is no question, however, that minors have received such treatments up to and including surgical alteration. Given the current political climate and legal and legislative activism related to this topic, I suspect we'll see more and not less of minors receiving such treatments, and there's no solid research or evidence to suggest that, particularly sex reassignment surgery, is a good thing for children.

[donquixote99]

Heard that report too.

Like many things it's a question of balance. If getting a decent education is job one for kids, work should be limited to amounts/times that will not make that impossible. Laws applied because if there's money to be made, some consider it something like their holy duty to make it, regardless of everything.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Heard that report too.

Like many things it's a question of balance. If getting a decent education is job one for kids, work should be limited to amounts/times that will not make that impossible. Laws applied because if there's money to be made, some consider it something like their holy duty to make it, regardless of everything.

Teenagers cannot file lawsuits against employers if I am not mistaken, which then can lead to employers exploit them (work safety).

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Teenagers cannot file lawsuits against employers if I am not mistaken, which then can lead to employers exploit them (work safety).

Mnors may not have standing to file a lawsuit, but they can certainly file a claim with the state or Federal department of labor against an employer who doesn't comply with state or federal employment law.

[bobabode]

Please don't feed this troll.