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Old 08-04-2010, 11:23 AM
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Pete, you really sound like you should audition for Fox. You seem to have admitted that you look to criticize the President on a point where you have no policy disagreement. You probably felt the same way about Clinton when he implemented the welfare to work program.

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Old 08-04-2010, 11:23 AM
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On this issue, I do believe McCain was the honest one.
Cap and Trade
Campaigned for it, now opposes it,

Comprehensive Immigration Reform
Wrote the bill, campaigned for it, now against it.

Campaign Finance Reform
With Russ Feingold wrote the bill, now favors the SCOTUS decision in "Citizens United vs. the FEC" which blew his legislation out of the water.

Shall I go on?

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Old 08-04-2010, 11:26 AM
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That would seem to be a forgone conclusion BUT:

On 08-02-10 he said:

"by August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end"

It's the 4th now. Let's get some popcorn and watch.
And until then, maybe you could cool it with the "liar" stuff.

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Old 08-04-2010, 12:17 PM
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Pete, you really sound like you should audition for Fox. You seem to have admitted that you look to criticize the President on a point where you have no policy disagreement. You probably felt the same way about Clinton when he implemented the welfare to work program.

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So lying is A-OK as long as I agree with what he's lying about?

John, call it what you want. He said in almost the same breath that troops were staying behind for 'counterinsurgency' among other things. But that's apparently not combat, because he needs to say it's not.

Although I suppose it depends on what your definition of 'end' is

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Old 08-04-2010, 12:28 PM
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John, call it what you want. He said in almost the same breath that troops were staying behind for 'counterinsurgency' among other things. But that's apparently not combat, because he needs to say it's not.

Although I suppose it depends on what your definition of 'end' is

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So, now you're down to parsing his speeches and objecting to his usage of the term "combat mission". Don't you think that his statement later in the same speech that there would be a residual force there for training and counter-insurgency purposes kind of undermines your argument?

Your argument is built on basically nothing as far as I can tell. I just don't think you can manage a scrap of objectivity where the Obama Administration is concerned.

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Old 08-04-2010, 12:42 PM
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So combat doesn't mean combat. Perfect. Anyone can see what he was up to in that twisted speech.

Unless you really don't believe there is going to be any more combat after 8-31?

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So combat doesn't mean combat. Perfect. Anyone can see what he was up to in that twisted speech.

Unless you really don't believe there is going to be any more combat after 8-31?

Pete
pete, you want everyone out or no one out?

What's the deal?
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:49 PM
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So combat doesn't mean combat. Perfect. Anyone can see what he was up to in that twisted speech.
As I said, Pete, you're just parsing words. What was he trying to conceal? What was he not telling us? He said we'd be there for counter-insurgency and training.

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Old 08-04-2010, 12:54 PM
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pete, you want everyone out or no one out?

What's the deal?
He doesn't want to be "lied to" so he takes one word out of a speech and makes it into a "lie" even though the speech as a whole conveys the truth for anyone to see.

He must REALLY love Breitbart!

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So combat doesn't mean combat. Perfect. Anyone can see what he was up to in that twisted speech.

Unless you really don't believe there is going to be any more combat after 8-31?

Pete
Combat operations were complete on May 1, 2003. Remember?
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