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Old 04-15-2014, 12:05 AM
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PNAS Studies Reveal Methane Leaking At a Much Higher Rate From Fracking Wells

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/04/10/1316546111

http://www.latimes.com/science/scien...,2417418.story
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Terrific!

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It's only twenty to thirty times as bad as CO2 as a greenhouse gas.
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It's only twenty to thirty times as bad as CO2 as a greenhouse gas.
You're right, it is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. Fortunately, it also has commercial value and it's not in anyone's interest to leak a lot of it.
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You're right, it is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. Fortunately, it also has commercial value and it's not in anyone's interest to leak a lot of it.
Except the drillers. For all the hyperventilating on the right about the EPA's onerous oversight of the petro industry, this suggests they are at best a paper tiger and at worst simply taking their cues from the industry they are charged with overseeing.
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From what I have read and seen reported there is NO SAFE WAY to FRACK PERIOD!



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You're right, it is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. Fortunately, it also has commercial value and it's not in anyone's interest to leak a lot of it.
As Bob said, the frackers don't seem to be in the least interested in collecting the methane. That tells me that, these astute capitalists have determined that the trouble and expense of collecting this "bi-catch" wouldn't yield a profit.

And, of course, the amount of methane released due to fracking pales in significance when compared to the amount released from the sea floor by our warming oceans and thawing permafrost. Oh, well, at least we know what's going to kill us all off. It's a comfort of sorts, I suppose.

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Except the drillers. For all the hyperventilating on the right about the EPA's onerous oversight of the petro industry, this suggests they are at best a paper tiger and at worst simply taking their cues from the industry they are charged with overseeing.
That's just not fair. Everybody knows the gov and it's regulators are taking excellent care of us.
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That's just not fair. Everybody knows the gov and it's regulators are taking excellent care of us.
Kinda hard to police shit with your budget cut to the bone. Which party did that?
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Kinda hard to police shit with your budget cut to the bone. Which party did that?
To the bone?

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President Obama's fiscal 2015 budget request includes $7.89 billion in funding for the Environmental Protection Agency, a cut of approximately $310 million, or 3.8 percent, compared to the agency's current funding level of $8.2 billion.

If the 'pubbies already cut the budget to the bone, why is Obie cutting further?
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