"Chasing Ice"

[piece-itpete]

Thanks. It's interesting.

Something is definitely going on. The co2 chart is chilling for sure.

If you impose global temps on it: http://climatechange2008.wikispaces....emperature.gif it tracks pretty well up to very recently. Something's up.

Pete

[Wasillaguy]

Think of all the work for software geeks if the poles swap polarity. For example, many satellites have electromagnets mounted in all three axis so they can use the earth's pull to orient the spacecraft. They may already be making adjustments to their software due to the poles creeping.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Thanks. It's interesting.

Something is definitely going on. The co2 chart is chilling for sure.

If you impose global temps on it: http://climatechange2008.wikispaces....emperature.gif it tracks pretty well up to very recently. Something's up.

Pete

Yeh, the Midwest had a crappy and long winter,'13-'14. So global warming and the human element involved is tenuous, at best.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by bobabode

The, the Midwest had a crappy and long winter,'13-'14. So global warming and the human element involved is tenuous, at best.

Considering the extra snow and the extra carbon, our crops will be awesome this year. See, increased CO2 is good for us.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by JCricket

Considering the extra snow and the extra carbon, our crops will be awesome this year. See, increased CO2 is good for us.

Until it isn't. At least y'all in Colorado won't be living in 'Water World'. 'Welcome to Colorado, the new land of enchantment'.

[Wasillaguy]

Salmon, loggerhead turtles (and probably many other animals).
They got magnetic mapping in their heads.
If the swapping of the poles is gradual enough, probably not a big impact as each generation would adapt to new mapping. If it happened in only a year or two, less than a life cycle, it could potentially wipe out multiple species.

[mpholland]

The problem with most data is that it comes in the form of theories from the minds of people. It isn't always the theory that makes the most sense that is correct, nor is it always the majority that is correct. Science evolves and changes as new things are discovered, sometimes dramatically. It boils down to who do you believe.

Now, having said that, I don't see any reason not to develop new and alternative forms of energy. I do see a huge problem with the economics of trying to completely switch from coal/oil/natural gas to solar/wind/whatever at the rate which they are trying to push, especially if it isn't going to be done on a global scale. China alone can negate most of the world progress.

[bobabode]

Leadng by example is our only option, particularly given our past history when it comes to this subject. No one is going to listen to the a$$holes who sh!t their own nest and then point their fingers elsewhere. No one source is going to be the answer.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

: http://climatechange2008.wikispaces....emperature.gif
Pete

I've been thinking about this. It's either a pause before it catches up, or something new (to our understanding) is up.

Something else occurred to me. These theories will be absolutely proven or not shortly - the global temp will go up or it won't. If it doesn't, 97% of experts will have been absolutely and totally wrong.

If it does, there will be a lot of told you sos going on.

Regardless there just isn't much we can do.

Pete