"Two N.Y.P.D. Officers Are Killed in Brooklyn Ambush; Suspect Commits Suicide" NYT

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Let's see. The logic put forward in this thread was that Sarah Palin and Fox News were directly responsible for the Gabby Giffords shooting.

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=2138

So, should attribute the NY cops shooting to Al Sharpton and MSNBC?

You're still butthurt after all these years because Ed (Noonereal) handed you your ass in that old thread?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

You're still butthurt after all these years because Ed (Noonereal) handed you your ass in that old thread?

Life tends to hurt whell's butt.

John

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

You're still butthurt after all these years because Ed (Noonereal) handed you your ass in that old thread?

Lousy attempt at spin. Ed's rush to judgement was ultimately completely repudiated by the facts.

With this shooting, however, a case can certainly be made that the shooter was inspired by the anti-cop protests, Those sentiments are reflected in his own words.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Lousy attempt at spin. Ed's rush to judgement was ultimately completely repudiated by the facts.

With this shooting, however, a case can certainly be made that the shooter was inspired by the anti-cop protests, Those sentiments are reflected in his own words.

Agreed. I have a hard time understanding why somebody would so readily believe that a campaign graphic that got no play in the media before the shooting influenced the AZ shooting while dismissing, out of hand, the notion that the guy who shot the NYC cops was influenced by demonstrations across the country for the past months with 24/7 media coverage. Partisanship often seems to get in the way of rational thinking or the desire to score cheap points.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Agreed. I have a hard time understanding why somebody would so readily believe that a campaign graphic that got no play in the media before the shooting influenced the AZ shooting while dismissing, out of hand, the notion that the guy who shot the NYC cops was influenced by demonstrations across the country for the past months with 24/7 media coverage. Partisanship often seems to get in the way of rational thinking or the desire to score cheap, silly points.

First, Pat, I don't think anyone's saying that Brinsley wasn't influenced by media reports from New York, Ferguson and Cleveland. Of course he was. Being out of town, he would have almost had to learn about those murders through media.

Second, it would hardly have been necessary for Palin's little pustule of incitement to have received wide media exposure. All that was necessary was for Lochner to have seen it.

John

[donquixote99]

People kill those they hold as enemies.

This was clearly a dangerously ill person, I know nothing of his history, but I know that in general we care for such illness very poorly.

I am of course sad for all affected by this tragedy, which is all of us.

[BlueStreak]

There's always got to be some asshat(s) that will come along and cast a pall over an otherwise worthy cause. I am saddened and dismayed at the deaths of these two officers and sympathize with the families who have suffered a terrible loss at a time that is supposed to be filled with joy and togetherness.

However, I still maintain that police brutality and the rise of militarized law enforcement need to be protested and peacefully opposed.

So, has the right wing noise machine begun politicizing this tragedy?

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

So, has the right wing noise machine begun politicizing this tragedy?

Dave

I have no idea. I did recall a very specific post in this forum however, and I'm wondering if certain individuals in this forum will be prepared to treat two somewhat similar scenarios in the same manner.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

However, I still maintain that police brutality and the rise of militarized law enforcement need to be protested and peacefully opposed.

And I offer this as one of the many reasons why it is necessary to equip qualified law enforcement with overwhelming force.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

And I offer this as one of the many reasons why it is necessary to equip qualified law enforcement with overwhelming force.

So on the chance that somebody in law enfocement might walk up to my car and blow my brains out because I'm a suspicious looking left-handed, adoptee, geezer who, when ordered, didn't get outta the car fast enough...I shouldnt be equipped with overwhelming force?