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Old 03-02-2018, 08:15 AM
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That's a pretty interesting interpretation. What you're saying is that is was politically OK before not to talk about German citizens not being safe in their own neighborhoods. Now, with German citizens getting fed up with living in fear, and with her poll numbers dropping as a result, she's forced to talk about reality when she really didn't have to before.

You're also saying that part of the requirement of being in the "pro-immigrant faction" you have to be willing to overlook - in fact purposefully ignore - conditions like this:

In Duisburg, spiraling levels of violent crime perpetrated by migrants from the Middle East and the Balkans have turned parts of the city into de facto "no-go zones" for police, according to a confidential police report that was leaked to Der Spiegel.

The report, produced by NRW police headquarters, warns that the government is losing control over problem neighborhoods and that the ability of police to maintain public order "cannot be guaranteed over the long term.".


Or this:

Police say they are alarmed by the brutality and aggression of the clans, who are said to view crime as leisure activity. If police dare to intervene, hundreds of clan members are mobilized to confront the police. A local woman interviewed by Deutschlandfunk radio said she was afraid for her safety: "After dark I would not stand here because there are a lot of conflicts between foreigners, especially between Lebanese and Turks."

I guess the "pro-immigrant" folks like Merkel and company don't live in these areas, so what do they care. Since they don't live there, they can prioritized political correctness over the safety of their citizens:

Peter Biesenbach of the opposition Christian Democrats (CDU) said: "If this is not a no-go area, then I do not know what is." He has called for an official study to determine the true scope of the criminal clans in NRW.

NRW Interior Minister Ralf Jäger of the Social Democrats (SPD) rejected that request because such a study would be politically incorrect:

"Further data collection is not legally permissible. Both internally and externally, any classification that could be used to depreciate human beings must be avoided. In this respect, the use of the term 'family clan' is forbidden from the police point of view."


Lovely....
The German media tend to suppress news which are unfavorable to immigrants/refugees.

Severe criticism was heaped on the media after the Cologne sex assaults.

Note the fifth paragraph.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ye...lts_in_Germany
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:41 AM
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Dubya was a supporter of "open borders" in Germany? Forced Merkel's hand to just let in whomever wanted to enter her country? Wow, that's news!
You know what isn't news, Mike? It's that you've taken on the worst traits of your 'Dear Leader'. The mendaciousness with which you troll this board is hilarious. It's like reading the comments section of Breitbarts or the daily unhinged, Oxy-contin ravings from Rush Limbo.

If you weren't so obviously flailing for all to see whilst spinning on your back, I would feel sorry for you but...
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:48 AM
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I would feel sorry for you but...
Whell is like the village idiot. He never, ever wins an argument, because his ideas are so laughable, but he persists, hoping beyond hope that someone, somewhere will take him seriously. I’m guessing working in HR does that to you.
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:54 AM
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You mean she has recognized that a significant section of German citizens recognized her folly.

The woman is dumb...she did not even want to put a cap on the inflow.

How could someone who has knowledge of Malmo in Sweden subject her citizens to this uncontrolled influx of nearly a million, mainly males and coming from conflict zones?

The German people should thank Victor Orban for reducing the flood.
Victor 'The Hun' Orban should calm down and have himself a nice croissant or three.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:02 AM
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Dubya was a supporter of "open borders" in Germany? Forced Merkel's hand to just let in whomever wanted to enter her country? Wow, that's news!
No, dimwit. His ridiculous Iraq War jump-started Mideast unrest (a Mideast domino theory was the whole point of this NeoCon war, after all). Instead of a wave of Jeffersonian democracy (the misguided objective), we got anarchy and bloodshed, resulting in the refugee crisis.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:25 AM
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What I said is true, however.
OH, sure it is. In the safest part of any US city, its commonplace for cops who stop someone for a traffic ticket to be surrounded by an angry mob. Sure. Happens all the time.

Like I said, you're a tool.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:26 AM
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You know what isn't news, Mike? It's that you've taken on the worst traits of your 'Dear Leader'. The mendaciousness with which you troll this board is hilarious. It's like reading the comments section of Breitbarts or the daily unhinged, Oxy-contin ravings from Rush Limbo.

If you weren't so obviously flailing for all to see whilst spinning on your back, I would feel sorry for you but...
So, yours is a vote for the status quo in Germany. Got it.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:31 AM
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No, dimwit. His ridiculous Iraq War jump-started Mideast unrest (a Mideast domino theory was the whole point of this NeoCon war, after all). Instead of a wave of Jeffersonian democracy (the misguided objective), we got anarchy and bloodshed, resulting in the refugee crisis.
No, butt-wipe. A number of the no go zones in Germany are controlled by Lebanese gangs. Tell me how the Iraq War pushed the Lebanese to Germany. Or is your addled brain actually trying to connect the dots to the Bush's handling of the Israel / Hezbollah conflict? Maybe suggesting that Hezbollah is just a fine buncha guys and Israel should have left Lebanon to their tender mercies?

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Old 03-02-2018, 10:38 AM
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OH, sure it is. In the safest part of any US city, its commonplace for cops who stop someone for a traffic ticket to be surrounded by an angry mob. Sure. Happens all the time.

Like I said, you're a tool.
The USA is between 3 and 19 times more dangerous than Germany in all categories of violent crime.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...d-States/Crime

Unlike the USA, Germany doesn't have a rash of deadly ambushes of cops like we have had, nor do police gun down criminals like they do here. There is truly no comparison between the levels of lawlessness in Germany and the USA.

According to the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings, 990 people were killed in 2015. In Germany, ten people were killed by police last year, according to a report on Thursday by publishing group Funke Mediengruppe, citing figures from the German Police University.

That means that while the population of the US is roughly four times that of Germany, the number of fatal police shootings there is about 100 times greater.

So far this year, 706 people have been killed by police in the US, according to the Washington Post. And by just January 5th of this year, more people had been killed by police in the US than Germany’s total for all of last year.


https://www.thelocal.de/20160922/nea...-10-in-germany

You sound about as ignorant about crime in northern Europe as your fellow Michigander Pete Hoekstra.
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Old 03-02-2018, 11:04 AM
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So, yours is a vote for the status quo in Germany. Got it.
Didn't realize that being of turncoat Hessian mercenary descent entitled me to vote in Germany's elections.
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