More Trouble Down In Texas - Page 4

Boreas · #31 09-29-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo

From the link in from the OP.

So the intent here is to make obtaining the ID process itself onerous, not the requirement of the ID itself, but one does lead into the other. The net effect is that this is a form of vote suppression since people without resources will simply not bother.

Onerous and confusing. A student ID from a state-run university? No good. A concealed carry permit issued by the same state? No problem.

Grumpy · #32 09-30-2016, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

One guy maybe? That's the reason for heaping possibly onerous requirements on millions? Of course, he did a terror thing, so that strokes the xenophobia, which is what you're trying to use to 'put over' this policy that is actually* aimed as suppressing Democratic votes.

* Don't try to deny it. Remember that Republican guy in PA who admitted it?

All I am advocating is uniformity across the country. By that I mean a picture ID for everyone. It should be free for those who cannot afford it. If that bothers you then make it free for everyone. Problem solved.

Has nothing to do with supressing anyone.

donquixote99 · #33 09-30-2016, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

All I am advocating is uniformity across the country. By that I mean a picture ID for everyone. It should be free for those who cannot afford it. If that bothers you then make it free for everyone. Problem solved.

Has nothing to do with supressing anyone.

Wasn't impugning your motives, other than to suggest you're worried about solving a problem that isn't a problem.

Am suggesting you've boarded a wagon being driven by people with different motives. Certainly if they did things your way (free id--and free help if burden of proof is heavy) there would be minimal harm to it....

Rajoo · #34 09-30-2016, 08:27 AM

Problem is solved if all states were to adopt vote by mail. Since stamps must be affixed out of pocket, there will be some folks that just will not bother. IMO the mailing should be free.

nailer · #35 09-30-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

All I am advocating is uniformity across the country. By that I mean a picture ID for everyone. It should be free for those who cannot afford it. If that bothers you then make it free for everyone. Problem solved.

Has nothing to do with supressing anyone.

In a way wouldn't this be a suppression of a State's rights?

Pio1980 · #36 09-30-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

In a way wouldn't this be a suppression of a State's rights?

Depends. Federal law overrules state law if there's a conflict.

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nailer · #37 09-30-2016, 10:39 AM

Which may just be perceived as a suppression of states' rights.

Pio1980 · #38 09-30-2016, 11:08 AM

We know what "States Rights" is code for.
In a conflict between local tyranny re the BoR and Federal law, States Rights lose.

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Grumpy · #39 10-03-2016, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980

We know what "States Rights" is code for.
In a conflict between local tyranny re the BoR and Federal law, States Rights lose.

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I am with you. Feds should trump ( scuse da bad pun ) the states.

CarlV · #40 10-03-2016, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

All I am advocating is uniformity across the country. By that I mean a picture ID for everyone. It should be free for those who cannot afford it. If that bothers you then make it free for everyone. Problem solved.

Has nothing to do with supressing anyone.

You fogot, a paid holiday if you turn in your voting receipt, federal holiday for federal elections.

Don't like fair play, move to Somalia.

Carl