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Old 09-30-2013, 02:18 PM
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Hey anyone know where I can get an old style 'shield' Made by the UAW sticker? I can't find them anywhere.

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Old 09-30-2013, 02:19 PM
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Yes.

I really wanted a sticker with the local that built it, but they didn't even bother returning my calls. Idiots.

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Old 09-30-2013, 02:22 PM
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Yes.

I really wanted a sticker with the local that built it, but they didn't even bother returning my calls. Idiots.

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Old 09-30-2013, 02:59 PM
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LOL! I vote union with my wallet

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Hey anyone know where I can get an old style 'shield' Made by the UAW sticker? I can't find them anywhere.

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If there were any demand for them, the Chinese would be manufacturing reproductions.

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Old 09-30-2013, 03:49 PM
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BAM!!

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Well, my Audi is 35 years old and has 300000 kilometers know, and needs all 50000 kilometers a new muffler. My Volkswagen is ten years old and has 90000 kilometers now and nothing has been replaced apart from tires, oil, brake fluid (and Bremsbeläge, don't know the English term for that) and batteries.

"AFAIK it is a matter of several years so it took the Bif Three a while to get it done" is absolutely not comprehensive to me. It is an US insider sentence. But no biggie.

It is not the American customers job to design, to build reasonable and rational cars. This is the job of the car engineers. The American customer's job is to buy such American cars - if available.
As a non-American who lived, worked and owned a business in the US, let me add an observation. I deal with people from around the world, but other than the British, maybe, I know of no other people who are less likely to go out of their way to support their own industries. Canadians are getting that way too. The Americans are certainly willing to, at times gleefully, watch as their industries fail and sit around and point fingers at whose fault it is. Another victim too weak to survive in the rough and tumble world of free enterprise, regardless of what the issue was that actually causes the failure. But they certainly won't lift a finger to help those same industries.

They also expect their own industries to succeed by following rules no other country follows. They put idiotic rules in place like CAFE fuel economy standards, which by design hurt the domestic industry while supporting imports. Then they point fingers again when the domestic industry fails.

The Japanese certainly don't operate that way. They do all they can to support domestic industry. As do the Chinese. The Swiss, for instance, are rabid in support of high quality domestic goods.

On top of that, over the last few decades, the American people have, for all of their incredible wealth, become ridiculously cheap. Stingy. They go on incredible shopping binges where they fill their carts to overflowing with the cheapest quality garbage they can find from stores such as Walmart or other discounters. It's almost a lustful desire to obtain as much "stuff" as they can, as cheaply as they can. Scores, or scroes, as they call them over on the other side. Everyone is a "collector" of something, and they, and their friends and families as presents, buy as much of this garbage as they can. NASCAR items of every kind. Collectible figurines or models of any kind. John Deere. Ford trucks. Etc. So much junk that defines who they are.

They won't spend the money to support their own industries, then they whine and cry when their job gets outsourced. Or blame the republicans.

I don't get it!
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Erik, they don't get it until it's their job that dries up, and often times not even then. Just read some of ZeroJunks posts; The business owner and/or management are rarely ever to blame for anything. When a business fails, it's anyone but them. Sadly, with a lot of Americans, the brainwashing is damn near complete.

They like to tell us we reward failure. I agree. Every time a business fails, thousands lose their jobs and the people who caused it blame someone else and walk away with millions, ---FAILURE has been rewarded.

What saddens me the most are the working class folks who know exactly who is screwing them. But, feel they have to support it anyways, because a "....shitty job is better than no job.". If anything represents a "slippery slope" to working poverty for millions of Americans--------------it's THAT.

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As a non-American who lived, worked and owned a business in the US, let me add an observation. I deal with people from around the world, but other than the British, maybe, I know of no other people who are less likely to go out of their way to support their own industries. Canadians are getting that way too. The Americans are certainly willing to, at times gleefully, watch as their industries fail and sit around and point fingers at whose fault it is. Another victim too weak to survive in the rough and tumble world of free enterprise, regardless of what the issue was that actually causes the failure. But they certainly won't lift a finger to help those same industries.

They also expect their own industries to succeed by following rules no other country follows. They put idiotic rules in place like CAFE fuel economy standards, which by design hurt the domestic industry while supporting imports. Then they point fingers again when the domestic industry fails.

The Japanese certainly don't operate that way. They do all they can to support domestic industry. As do the Chinese. The Swiss, for instance, are rabid in support of high quality domestic goods.

On top of that, over the last few decades, the American people have, for all of their incredible wealth, become ridiculously cheap. Stingy. They go on incredible shopping binges where they fill their carts to overflowing with the cheapest quality garbage they can find from stores such as Walmart or other discounters. It's almost a lustful desire to obtain as much "stuff" as they can, as cheaply as they can. Scores, or scroes, as they call them over on the other side. Everyone is a "collector" of something, and they, and their friends and families as presents, buy as much of this garbage as they can. NASCAR items of every kind. Collectible figurines or models of any kind. John Deere. Ford trucks. Etc. So much junk that defines who they are.

They won't spend the money to support their own industries, then they whine and cry when their job gets outsourced. Or blame the republicans.

I don't get it!
For the most part----EXCELLENT POST, BTW!
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For the most part----EXCELLENT POST, BTW!
He lost me at Ford trucks, almost. (Prolly talking about die cast, pot metal POS Fords).
I wear Red Wing steel toes because they are made here, (not to mention they feel damn good & worth every penny). I wear Dickie jeans,(prolly from Indonesia, and no I'm not pulling down my pants to check) and I drink Uhmerican whisky and limey Newcastle ale.

Although, I'm drinking Absolut right now because they're soshulists and they're wimmin' are hot.
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