C4c

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

It was worse a little while back. I have good friends from way back before I 'made' it (although I still don't buy $13k cars! ), some of their kids wheel and deal in cheap cars, for a while there they had a very hard time down in the lowest range. Not a shortage exactly, but to some degree, and prices went up, of course.

Btw, their preferences run to old civics or dodge dakotas

Pete

A perceived shortage, a misconception fostered by people who used Cash For Clunkers to inflate the price of what they were selling. Most people driving $1,000 cars can't afford to buy new cars, no matter what program is being offered. Twenty grand for a new car is still twenty grand. People driving $1,000 cars trade them for $5,000 cars.

John

[piece-itpete]

Someone driving a clean low mile 1989 k car since new would possibly sell it for a few bucks, or trade it in for $2500-4500 under the program. It lowered the amount of used cars available.

I've been buying used cars from old folks as my daily drivers for a while...

Here's a shot of some c4c trade ins.



Pete

[Boreas]

See any thousand dollar cars there?

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Boreas

See any thousand dollar cars there?

They were obviously worth less than $2500, or perhaps less than 4500.

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Btw, I was surprised that an old v6 Dakota is one of the hood hustlers go tos for trucks. You'd think F150 or 1500, etc.

Sadly I'm not surprised about the old Civics.

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Weeeeeellllll John my luck hasn't been very good lately, but it was my own fault. I probably could've found a clean old Crown Vic (if any of them weren't c4c'd) but no, I had to get all fancy with the Town Car. Again though it was my fault, and here it is almost 3 years later and I'm still driving it.

A friend had a 91 Bonneville, it was a GREAT car. I'd drive the 6000 for sure.

I can see why some folks buy new cars and if you get lucky like Rob can be good to you. Heck my dad doesn't even change his own oil anymore.

That said if I had to pay 10-15-20k or more on a car I'd probably choke

The old Civics the 'kids' drive are amazing. Hey I complimented Mr Honda Seriously, they buy them looking ragged out with 300k miles and drive them forever, good on gas, fun to drive.

Pete

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Weeeeeellllll John my luck hasn't been very good lately, but it was my own fault. I probably could've found a clean old Crown Vic (if any of them weren't c4c'd) but no, I had to get all fancy with the Town Car. Again though it was my fault, and here it is almost 3 years later and I'm still driving it.

A friend had a 91 Bonneville, it was a GREAT car. I'd drive the 6000 for sure.

I can see why some folks buy new cars and if you get lucky like Rob can be good to you. Heck my dad doesn't even change his own oil anymore.

That said if I had to pay 10-15-20k or more on a car I'd probably choke

The old Civics the 'kids' drive are amazing. Hey I complimented Mr Honda Seriously, they buy them looking ragged out with 300k miles and drive them forever, good on gas, fun to drive.

Pete

Geez Louise! Weren't you out test driving a new Jaguar recently? Maybe you were just jerking some car salesman around? Do you smoke a pipe?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Weeeeeellllll John my luck hasn't been very good lately, but it was my own fault. I probably could've found a clean old Crown Vic (if any of them weren't c4c'd) but no, I had to get all fancy with the Town Car. Again though it was my fault, and here it is almost 3 years later and I'm still driving it.

A friend had a 91 Bonneville, it was a GREAT car. I'd drive the 6000 for sure.

I can see why some folks buy new cars and if you get lucky like Rob can be good to you. Heck my dad doesn't even change his own oil anymore.

That said if I had to pay 10-15-20k or more on a car I'd probably choke

The old Civics the 'kids' drive are amazing. Hey I complimented Mr Honda Seriously, they buy them looking ragged out with 300k miles and drive them forever, good on gas, fun to drive.

Pete

My Honda civic went to 289,000 and I most likely could have had it fixed when it broke down in 2009 but I got tired of dealing with it...
somecame to my house and bought it for $500 NOT Running....
so much for there being a used car at $1000 shortage...

my Honda CRV was bought off a used car lot no bargaining for $13k in 2006 with 70k on it...it is parked outside right now with 231,000 on it.

Pete any empirical evidence of car under 1000k shortage based on fact not you subjective experience?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Weeeeeellllll John my luck hasn't been very good lately, but it was my own fault. I probably could've found a clean old Crown Vic (if any of them weren't c4c'd)

Pete, you either don't know or are choosing to ignore the fact that one of the objectives of Cash For Clunkers was to get gross polluters off the road. You know, $1,000 cars?

If these trade-in clunkers had been put back on the market they would have either continued to be gross polluters or, because of the repairs to them for emissions, etc., they wouldn't have been $1,000 cars any more.

A friend had a 91 Bonneville, it was a GREAT car. I'd drive the 6000 for sure.

The Pontiac 6000 was basically a Chevrolet Celebrity. That ain't no Bonneville!

John

[Boreas]

There should be a shitload of Crown Vics since the cops are all offloading them for Chargers. 'Course the police package ones are a little shy on amenities.

John