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[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Proven wrong, once again you move the goalposts. I responded to you using the NM example as an illustrative example that "Dems look at the Constitution as a suggestion" by saying that neither open or concealed carry are adjudicated constitutional rights.

And is was indeed a lame attempt of whataboutism to use this example to counter my assertion that Trump's GOP no longer supports democracy (for which shitloads of evidence has been revealed in Congressional, Federal and State investigations, mostly from the mouths of Republicans).

More BS, because that isn't even the phrase you quoted when you responded. Damn, you even lie to yourself if you think it will prove a point.

But let's take your comment at face value. I raised the New Mexico example in response to your comments about Dems who value freedom and democracy. Historically, you contrast this with Repub's support for autocracy.

What is democratic about a governor subverting the law with a bogus declaration of emergency? What is democratic about suspending a consitutional right? You want to dance on the head of a pin and suggest that "neither open or concealed carry are adjudicated constitutional rights.". The problem with that statement is obvious: these were absolutely rights in Nevada before the governor acted unilaterally, against the will of the people via their elected representatives.

For someone who states they hate autocracy, not sure why you're defending this.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

More BS, because that isn't even the phrase you quoted when you responded. Damn, you even lie to yourself if you think it will prove a point.

But let's take your comment at face value. I raised the New Mexico example in response to your comments about Dems who value freedom and democracy. Historically, you contrast this with Repub's support for autocracy.

What is democratic about a governor subverting the law with a bogus declaration of emergency? What is democratic about suspending a consitutional right? You want to dance on the head of a pin and suggest that "neither open or concealed carry are adjudicated constitutional rights.". The problem with that statement is obvious: these were absolutely rights in Nevada before the governor acted unilaterally, against the will of the people via their elected representatives.

For someone who states they hate autocracy, not sure why you're defending this.

The simple fact remains that open and concealed carry are not adjudicated constitutional rights as you asserted. What the Governor is doing or attempting to do is a state issue and will be adjudicated in state courts and is, accordingly, none of your fucking business.

And for the record, lots of Democrats have spoken out against her. Me? I don't give a shit one way or the other what they do in NM, although I find open-carry mostly a lame attempt by insecure dickweeds to intimidate others (and I've been a gun owner, sports shooter and hunter for over 50 years).

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The simple fact remains that open and concealed carry are not adjudicated constitutional rights as you asserted. What the Governor is doing or attempting to do is a state issue and will be adjudicated in state courts and is, accordingly, none of your fucking business.

And for the record, lots of Democrats have spoken out against her. Me? I don't give a shit one way or the other what they do in NM, although I find open-carry mostly a lame attempt by insecure dickweeds to intimidate others (and I've been a gun owner, sports shooter and hunter for over 50 years).

Do I have to join a militia first before I buy a gun and open carry?

Btw, only seen once person carrying a gun as a side arm in Reno. He is a scrawny guy who works at my mechanic shop, mans the front desk and happens to be the son-in-law of the owner, who is one heck of a mechanic. And he does look silly with a gun strapped to his leg in a customer oriented business.

“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Do I have to join a militia first before I buy a gun and open carry?

Btw, only seen once person carrying a gun as a side arm in Reno. He is a scrawny guy who works at my mechanic shop, mans the front desk and happens to be the son-in-law of the owner, who is one heck of a mechanic. And he does look silly with a gun strapped to his leg in a customer oriented business.

He might look silly to you, but I'm willing to bet no robberies of the business have occurred while he's manning the front desk.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

He might look silly to you, but I'm willing to bet no robberies of the business have occurred while he's manning the front desk.

So if I get a gun and carry it around, I will not get robbed at gunpoint? Good to know.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The simple fact remains that open and concealed carry are not adjudicated constitutional rights as you asserted. What the Governor is doing or attempting to do is a state issue and will be adjudicated in state courts and is, accordingly, none of your fucking business.

What is /isn't my business isn't up to you to determine. The simple fact remains that those are constitutional rights that existed in NM. Just because those rights have been abridged in other states is irrelevant, just like your irrelevant argument.

Originally Posted by finnbow

And for the record, lots of Democrats have spoken out against her. Me? I don't give a shit one way or the other what they do in NM, although I find open-carry mostly a lame attempt by insecure dickweeds to intimidate others (and I've been a gun owner, sports shooter and hunter for over 50 years).

Why don't you tell those lots of Democrats that it's none of their F'ing business, then?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

More BS, because that isn't even the phrase you quoted when you responded. Damn, you even lie to yourself if you think it will prove a point.

But let's take your comment at face value. I raised the New Mexico example in response to your comments about Dems who value freedom and democracy. Historically, you contrast this with Repub's support for autocracy.

What is democratic about a governor subverting the law with a bogus declaration of emergency? What is democratic about suspending a consitutional right? You want to dance on the head of a pin and suggest that "neither open or concealed carry are adjudicated constitutional rights.". The problem with that statement is obvious: these were absolutely rights in Nevada before the governor acted unilaterally, against the will of the people via their elected representatives.



For someone who states they hate autocracy, not sure why you're defending this.

You've been watching too much Glen Beck, pal. Do you have a chalkboard set up in the basement?