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Old 06-12-2017, 07:58 AM
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Pretty hard to "obfuscate" when you pull a quote directly from the article, albeit one buried pretty deep in the article.

As to your second point, Obama contacted Iran before taking office, while the government was lead by Bush at the time). And he had plenty of meetings with other country's officials during the transition. So what's your point?
Last time I checked, Obama didn't attempt to establish a backchannel with a geopolitical foe who tried to manipulate our election while using their secure communications channels to do so. All you have is false equivalencies when it comes to defending your Dear Leader.
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:34 AM
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Last time I checked, Obama didn't attempt to establish a backchannel with a geopolitical foe who tried to manipulate our election while using their secure communications channels to do so.
Check again.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/....obama.letter/

While Iran may not have tried to "manipulate" any elections, they do have a rich history as sponsors or terrorism, hostage - taking, IED manufacturing, etc.
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Old 06-12-2017, 10:09 AM
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Check again.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/....obama.letter/

While Iran may not have tried to "manipulate" any elections, they do have a rich history as sponsors or terrorism, hostage - taking, IED manufacturing, etc.
You truly are a dimwit. President Obama was the President at the time, unlike Kushner and Flynn who were trying to undermine ongoing foreign policy efforts by President Obama (i.e., Russian sanctions) in the middle of an ongoing investigation of Russian interference in our election in which Flynn himself was tied up in. Yet another ridiculous false equivalency from you. I've come to expect no less in your efforts to defend your incompetent and amoral Dear Leader.
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Old 06-12-2017, 10:19 AM
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You truly are a dimwit.
And you're truly a bung hole. Regardless, I did post the incorrect link. Here's the correct one.

https://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/20...e-no-strategy/

During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies. The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah's rule, as chief of staff for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as ambassador to Ukraine. Ambassador Miller has confirmed to me his conversations with Iranian leaders during the 2008 campaign.
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Old 06-12-2017, 10:44 AM
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And you're truly a bung hole. Regardless, I did post the incorrect link...
I think it was a set-up.
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:49 PM
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And you're truly a bung hole. Regardless, I did post the incorrect link. Here's the correct one.

https://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/20...e-no-strategy/

During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies. The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah's rule, as chief of staff for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as ambassador to Ukraine. Ambassador Miller has confirmed to me his conversations with Iranian leaders during the 2008 campaign.
Your false equivalency is ridiculous because Russia was actively trying to influence the American election while recruiting witting or unwitting participants in this effort (e.g., Flynn, Kushner, Page). Furthermore, there are indications that the Trump and Kushner organizations sought and/or received money from Russian banks aligned with Putin and the Kremlin to bail out failing real estate deals.
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Speaking of so-called fake news;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0c5a35ca19685
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Old 06-12-2017, 03:32 PM
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Under Trumpism, this kind of garbage has become mainstream political thought. Hell, Trump has staffed his White House with the kind of miscreants who put this kind of shit out (Bannon, Miller, Gorka, Flynn).
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Why is NBC giving airtime to this idiot? Sad enough that we have a "reality" show host in the Oval Office. MSM has sold its soul, giving airtime to repulsive people in exchange for ratings. Edward R. Murrow must be watching from somewhere in utter disgust.
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