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Old 09-25-2015, 10:31 PM
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No, I don't. What I want you to do is stay out of the conversation. You're clearly too dim to even understand the questions I posted.
I'm only dim as to what makes you tick, as I never went though the brainwashing.
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Old 09-25-2015, 10:32 PM
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If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson

Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow Wilson

Years later, reflecting on the major banks’ control in Washington, President Franklin Roosevelt paid this indirect praise to his distant predecessor President Andrew Jackson, who had “killed” the 2nd Bank of the US (an earlier type of the Federal Reserve System). After Jackson’s administration the bankers’ influence was gradually restored and increased, culminating in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Roosevelt knew this history.

The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government ever since
the days of Andrew Jackson… -Franklin D. Roosevelt
(in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)
No doubt those with the gold make the rules, the foxes run the henhouse.
So, is there a practical real world cure thay won't kill the patient?

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Old 09-25-2015, 10:41 PM
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No doubt those with the gold make the rules, the foxes run the henhouse.
So, is there a practical real world cure thay won't kill the patient?

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Steve there has alway been a way to cure the problem and it could be done quickly.

The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham Lincoln




Issue of currency should be lodged with the government and be protected from domination by Wall Street. We are opposed to…provisions [which] would place our currency and credit system in private hands. – Theodore Roosevelt


Two of our Presidents have done and or started to do it. Abraham Lincoln had the green backs. Just prior to JFK death he issued and printed a currency that never made it to the public since he was killed.

Ironic isn't it these two presidents where assassinated.
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Old 09-25-2015, 10:43 PM
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Steve there has alway been a way to cure the problem and it could be done quickly.

The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham Lincoln




Issue of currency should be lodged with the government and be protected from domination by Wall Street. We are opposed to…provisions [which] would place our currency and credit system in private hands. – Theodore Roosevelt


Two of our Presidents have done and or started to do it. Abraham Lincoln had the green backs. Just prior to JFK death he issued and printed a currency that never made it to the public since he was killed.

Ironic isn't it these two presidents where assassinated.
I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but sometimes truth is stranger.

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If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson

Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow Wilson

Years later, reflecting on the major banks’ control in Washington, President Franklin Roosevelt paid this indirect praise to his distant predecessor President Andrew Jackson, who had “killed” the 2nd Bank of the US (an earlier type of the Federal Reserve System). After Jackson’s administration the bankers’ influence was gradually restored and increased, culminating in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Roosevelt knew this history.

The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government ever since
the days of Andrew Jackson… -Franklin D. Roosevelt
(in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)
If you are going to cut and paste entire paragraphs from a blog? (See bolded)You have to attribute it to that author. You cannot insert it as your own words. It is both dishonest and against the rules of this forum.
http://www.themoneymasters.com/the-m...ns-on-banking/
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Old 09-25-2015, 10:52 PM
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I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but sometimes truth is stranger.

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Conspiracy theories are only such until prove true or false but that's not the point.

We are paying privit banks to controll our money supply. All this does is drive us down to our knees in debt as interest just keeps growing until it devourers everything. The only one that wins is the Banks.
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Old 09-25-2015, 10:55 PM
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If you are going to cut and paste entire paragraphs from a blog? (See bolded)You have to attribute it to that author. You cannot insert it as your own words. It is both dishonest and against the rules of this forum.
http://www.themoneymasters.com/the-m...ns-on-banking/
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If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson
This is your problem, bucko. You read shit like this and you believe it because it appeals to your cynicism and sense of victimhood. You never even wonder whether you're being lied to.

You're being lied to.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:10 PM
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Impoverishment of the middle class and decline of educational standards are two that comes to mind. When did this start? I would say in the 70's. Why and how will need more thought. Are we only counting the negatives?
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It'll have to do, for now. I need to go squeeze some Meyer lemons and refill my glass.
It started with Nixon in my opinion but I think I'll wait for your intended audience to weigh in.
Good we all agree

Nixon took the country off the gold standard. At that point we went from a currency that was backed by a hard asset to fiat. Fiat can be printed at will deluting the money suply and deminishing it's purchasing power.

In the past 45 years a new mid level car went from $5000 to $45,000. Hardly a 2% inflation rate year over year.
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:12 PM
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This is your problem, bucko. You read shit like this and you believe it because it appeals to your cynicism and sense of victimhood. You never even wonder whether you're being lied to.

You're being lied to.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp
That link has germs

I read lots of shit including this thread and your post.
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