Durham's Investigations Fizzles

[Chicks]

Why Merrick Garland Should Fire Special Counsel Durham Now
https://www.thedailybeast.com/shan-w...sel-durham-now

Whell’s World is completely corrupt and morally bankrupt.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Why Merrick Garland Should Fire Special Counsel Durham Now
https://www.thedailybeast.com/shan-w...sel-durham-now

Whell’s World is completely corrupt and morally bankrupt.

He may not want to take the heat for firing Durham, but the Senate Judiciary Committee should convene hearings about this Barr/Durham attempt to weaponize the federal government as counter-programming to Gym Jordan's clown show.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Why Merrick Garland Should Fire Special Counsel Durham Now
https://www.thedailybeast.com/shan-w...sel-durham-now

Whell’s World is completely corrupt and morally bankrupt.

Right, and you think Joe Biden is an "honest guy".... Pardon me if I don't get too shook up at your critique of my "world".

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Originally Posted by whell

Right, and you think Joe Biden is an "honest guy".... Pardon me if I don't get too shook up at your critique of my "world".

So, are you comfortable with the weaponization of the DOJ by Barr and Durham (I thought Republicans were against that kind of shit)?

As for Biden's honesty, he is the paragon of virtue compared to your Dear Leader.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, are you comfortable with the weaponization of the DOJ by Barr and Durham (I thought Republicans were against that kind of shit)?

As for Biden's honesty, he is the paragon of virtue compared to your Dear Leader.

Barr inherited a weaponized DOJ/FBI.

And, thanks for the "Biden sucks less than Trump" kindergarten-level defense of Biden.

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Originally Posted by whell

Barr inherited a weaponized DOJ/FBI.

The DOE-IG found otherwise in its investigation of the initiation of Crossfire Hurricane and as hard as Barr/Durham tried to undermine the IG's findings, they failed.

And, thanks for the "Biden sucks less than Trump" kindergarten-level defense of Biden.

My point was that you, a reflexive Trump apologist, have no standing to criticize Biden's honesty.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The DOE-IG found otherwise in its investigation of the initiation of Crossfire Hurricane and as hard as Barr/Durham tried to undermine the IG's findings, they failed.

Really? I don't blame the IG for not wanting to have politics attach itself to his report, not wanting to weigh in on whether there might have been agenda on the part of the Crossfile-Hurricane investigative teams. He didn't have any issue with suggesting that these "hand-picked investigative teams" were in truth a bunch of screw-ups.

The question that flows from that is: Did these "hand-picked investigative teams", supposed some of the best of the best in the Bureau, consistently and systematically screw up on purpose, or were these "screw-ups" intentional? From Horowitz' report:

We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny. We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just by those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed.

The report goes on to descript some of these mistakes. They're not small or insignificant. For example, before the 2016 election, the FBI had offered Christopher Steele $1MM if he could provide that information in the "dossier" was factual.
Steele never collected because the info in the "dossier" was crap. That foreknowledge didn't stop these "hand-picked investigative teams" from citing the Dossier in their applications for FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page.

From Durham: However, as we describe later, as the FBI obtained additional information raising significant questions about the reliability of the Steele election reporting, the FBI failed to reassess the Steele reporting relied upon in the FISA applications, and did not fully advise NSD or OI officials.

So, they knew they had crap info, but it was important to use that crap info to violate the rights of a private citizen, getting a warrant to surveil him.

Horowitz might not have been able or willing to draw a conclusion about the
politicization of one of their investigations. It's not hard to look at the facts and infer that there was much crap that happened that absolutely should not have happened.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Really? I don't blame the IG for not wanting to have politics attach itself to his report, not wanting to weigh in on whether there might have been agenda on the part of the Crossfile-Hurricane investigative teams. He didn't have any issue with suggesting that these "hand-picked investigative teams" were in truth a bunch of screw-ups.

The question that flows from that is: Did these "hand-picked investigative teams", supposed some of the best of the best in the Bureau, consistently and systematically screw up on purpose, or were these "screw-ups" intentional? From Horowitz' report:

We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny. We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just by those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed.

The report goes on to descript some of these mistakes. They're not small or insignificant. For example, before the 2016 election, the FBI had offered Christopher Steele $1MM if he could provide that information in the "dossier" was factual.
Steele never collected because the info in the "dossier" was crap. That foreknowledge didn't stop these "hand-picked investigative teams" from citing the Dossier in their applications for FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page.

From Durham: However, as we describe later, as the FBI obtained additional information raising significant questions about the reliability of the Steele election reporting, the FBI failed to reassess the Steele reporting relied upon in the FISA applications, and did not fully advise NSD or OI officials.

So, they knew they had crap info, but it was important to use that crap info to violate the rights of a private citizen, getting a warrant to surveil him.

Horowitz might not have been able or willing to draw a conclusion about the
politicization of one of their investigations. It's not hard to look at the facts and infer that there was much crap that happened that absolutely should not have happened.

Well, Trump was pursuing a hotel deal in Moscow at the time (while denying it) as well as one in (former Soviet) Azerbaijan with Iran's Revolutionary Guard, hired a campaign manager who helped a Putin stooge get elected in Ukraine, had a history of money-laundering for Putin's oligarchs and had publicly solicited Putin's help in his election (which Putin delivered).

When the Australian diplomat in London told the FBI that Trump's coffee-boy revealed that the Trump campaign was working with Russia, what were they supposed to do? Ignore it? No, the DOE-IG found that Crossfire Hurrican was properly predicated.

And the fact remains that Durham's team did not uncover any criminal activity associated with Crossfire Hurricane (despite Barr's inappropriate involvement/intervention), but pursued ridiculous criminal charges (prompting seasoned prosecutors on the team to resign) that were embarrassingly demolished in open court.