Romney’s false scare story in Ohio

[Boreas]

Real Clear Politics has moved Michigan from Obama to "Toss Up". Here's why: although the President's numbers have remained steady, there has been a 2% shift to Romney among undecided voters. In Ohio there has been a similar spike for Romney but, fortunately, also for Obama. It looks like that lying piece of shit has hit pay dirt with his damned ad.

John

[ebacon]

Karl Rove is good at one thing and that is getting Republicans elected. Whether his style is a role model for self-government is unfortunately an entirely different issue.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Karl Rove is good at one thing and that is getting Republicans elected. Whether his style is a role model for self-government is unfortunately an entirely different issue.

Here's how it works.

You tell a stupid, outrageous lie on the campaign trail.

The opposition reacts in a big way.

Capitalizing on all the noise, you double down and produce a TV ad spouting the same bullshit.

The opposition reacts by creating their own ad to counter the lie.

The auto companies who have been the target of the lying accusations respond in the press, denying the accusation.

You then start picking apart the opposition's and the company's denials, claiming that any supposed inconsistencies or any words that can be characterized as "ambiguous" or "evasive" are proof that you were right all along.

More opposition reaction.

The lie never goes away.

John

[merrylander]

As Churchill noted "A lie is halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on."

[piece-itpete]

I hear the radio ad on this often.

It's certainly not the brazen lie touted here. A bit misleading, yes...

Are the plants in China unionized? Do they help the blue collar guys here?

Pete

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I hear the radio ad on this often.

It's certainly not the brazen lie touted here. A bit misleading, yes...

Are the plants in China unionized? Do they help the blue collar guys here?

Pete

Labor unions are illegal in China. I think their auto workers make about $1/hr. That's what US labor is racing to the bottom against.

Selling in China does not create work for US auto workers. If the corporation makes some money in China then the US workers might get some benefit through profit sharing. It depends on their labor contract.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I hear the radio ad on this often.

It's certainly not the brazen lie touted here. A bit misleading, yes...

Are the plants in China unionized? Do they help the blue collar guys here?

Pete

Read this.

John

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Labor unions are illegal in China. I think their auto workers make about $1/hr. That's what US labor is racing to the bottom against.

Selling in China does not create work for US auto workers. If the corporation makes some money in China then the US workers might get some benefit through profit sharing. It depends on their labor contract.

Unless doing so helps the company remain solvent/profitable. The unions for Mercedes and BMW (IG Metall) haven't objected to some of their cars being built overseas (including in the non-union American South) because they believe it will help the companies they work for remain solvent. Same diff with Chrysler and China.

[piece-itpete]

So outsourcing is OK?

Pete

[Wasillaguy]

Sounds like the unions are aware they are the problem.