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01-05-2017, 08:49 AM
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I believe the birthrate is fine, just is some (thinking Eugenics) perceive for the wrong crowd.
The world is vastly overpopulated and with fewer and fewer resources and employment opportunities a day of reckoning will soon be here.
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01-05-2017, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oerets
I believe the birthrate is fine, just is some (thinking Eugenics) perceive for the wrong crowd.
The world is vastly overpopulated and with fewer and fewer resources and employment opportunities a day of reckoning will soon be here.
Barney
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Overpopulation? Africa, Australia, North and South America, Russia and Central Asia.
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01-05-2017, 08:53 AM
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It's completely true that there's no problem here, except if one is concerned for some certain 'favorite group.' Such groups are quasi-biological, but their importance is totally emotional.
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01-05-2017, 10:02 AM
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After reading this thread, particularly the part about reproduction, I thought I'd offer a few random thoughts from a female point of view.
Someone noted earlier that women are waiting until they are older to have children. I think that was true years ago when there were no laws to protect a woman's job during pregnancy. I don't think it is so true anymore.
There was discussion regarding incentives for not getting pregnant (to keep population down) as opposed to penalties. I don't think incentives or penalties will have much impact in the majority of the population. Just my opinion....
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01-05-2017, 10:09 AM
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We are brainstorming without a lot of data here. Women's average age at first childbirth ought to be something on which data is available....
Here's the first thing that comes up on Google:
Average Age Of First-Time Moms Keeps Climbing In The U.S.
It's hard to argue that the thing they say is driving the number is a bad thing:
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The main force pulling the average age to the older end of the spectrum is a decrease in the number of teen moms, the researchers say. Over the past 15 years, the proportion of first-time mothers younger than 20 years old dropped from 23 percent to 13 percent.
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01-05-2017, 10:11 AM
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At least in Finland abortions are legal and free and none of the garbage from extremists trying to control women.
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01-05-2017, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
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At least in Finland abortions are legal and free and none of the garbage from extremists trying to control women.
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Finland does shit right.
The US should emulate them.
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01-05-2017, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Finland does shit right.
The US should emulate them.
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And you believe that Trump will even come close to that?
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01-05-2017, 05:19 PM
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And you believe that Trump will even come close to that?
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I've heard that good chess players are always thinking five moves ahead.
That's what I am doing.
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01-05-2017, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
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I've heard that good chess players are always thinking five moves ahead.
That's what I am doing.
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That's a dodge. You know that you are supporting a politician that will try to move us as far away from the Finland model as he possibly can.
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