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Old 06-11-2014, 08:38 AM
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I love it when I hit upon just the right word!


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lout
noun
an uncouth or aggressive man or boy.
"drunken louts"
synonyms: ruffian, hooligan, thug, boor, barbarian, oaf, hoodlum, rowdy, lubber; informaltough, roughneck, bruiser, yahoo, lug, knuckle-dragger
"drunken louts"
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:15 AM
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Chuck Todd inteviewed the victor....some guy with a PH.D in economics with the same old tired Teabagger/anti-big government vibe....seems to be a free-market type that is against amnesty and Wall Street collusion. He sounds like the type that could have an Aiken moment since he would not come out and state he believes in AN actual minimum wage. Sort of weirdly mentioned sub-Sahara Africans as an example of people it would be great to pay $100 dollars an hour to but the laws of economics dicates the impossibility of this.

A conservative Democrat with his chit together might be able to knock this guy off.
I think this Brat guy is a smart dude just spouting talking points to garner low information votes but he has an organization. But there is something weird about him.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:30 AM
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If he wasn't weird, he wouldn't have run against Cantor.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:55 AM
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It would be easy to dismiss him but then again he knocked off the majority leader.
However his influence will be minimal in comparison to what Cantor's would have been after the 2014 battle.
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It would be easy to dismiss him but then again he knocked off the majority leader.
However his influence will be minimal in comparison to what Cantor's would have been after the 2014 battle.
Cantor was cocky and the guy was lucky to have issues like "children at the borders" working for him.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:39 AM
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Were you mugged by a guy from El Salvador or something? Your sure seem 'activated' on this 'child invasion' thing....
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:07 AM
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Were you mugged by a guy from El Salvador or something? Your sure seem 'activated' on this 'child invasion' thing....
That is neither here nor there. "Children at the border" is now a driving force in Republican politics. They view it as an out growth of the "Dream Act".
The cumulative result...Immigration Reform is dead in the near future.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:23 AM
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That is neither here nor there. "Children at the border" is now a driving force in Republican politics. They view it as an out growth of the "Dream Act".
The cumulative result...Immigration Reform is dead in the near future.
The Dream act only applies to children already here and also has other restrictions, but then he Republicans woul lie to their own mothers.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:41 AM
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A few thoughts:

It's interesting that Can't-or gerrymandered himself out of a job. In building what he thought would be a district so conservative he'd never lose, he built one so conservative he couldn't win. Amazing bit of backfire.

It's frightening because it furthers the idea that Republican should never compromise. Can't-or allegedly is ousted because he suggested that just maybe they should find common ground on immigration. Since compromise is what makes democracy work, it's a little scary. I wonder if the American people will continue to support a congress that literally does absolutely nothing, and now, even runs on a promise to do absolutely nothing.

I also wonder if this won't force even more extreme candidates for national office. Republicans already face an electoral math problem. Pushing the party even further right will make that even more difficult to over-come. As a Democrat, I'm tempted to see that as good news. But really it's not. We're watching what is really a very small group of people move the collective conversation further right. It's moving Democrats to the right as well. Look at the health care issue. We enacted the Nixon/Romney solution - what was always seen as the "Republican" plan. Now it's called "So************************m". The only bright spot - if indeed the Republicans move so far to the right they can't win the White House for several more cycles, the Supreme Court will shift and stay that way for a very long time.

I suspect, however, that middle Republicans will start to get tired of the extreme rhetoric at some point. Some already realize that demonizing the fastest growing demographic in the country is political suicide. Someone will come along and find the right combination of language and charisma to convince the base that they need to change. It's not outside the realm of possible that we'll see the Republican party split. If that were to happen, the Tea Hatters would be exposed for what they are - a small, angry, racist faction. The return of a reasonable Republican party would attract a lot of the Independents who left when things started getting so weird.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:46 AM
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Also worth note: Cantor was the only Republican Jew in the House. It would be foolish not to realize that played a role in all this. Christian conservatives haven't been less than vocal about their desire to see Christian dogma instituted into US law. Cantor didn't fit that social agenda.
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