Germanwings

[JJIII]

Has anybody seen reports like this?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/25/europe...gs-crash-main/

Terrorism or something else?

[whell]

Yup. NBC News is quoting authorities who say that the evidence indicates that the co-pilot deliberately crashed the plane.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ger...-clues-n330426

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by whell

Yup. NBC News is quoting authorities who say that the evidence indicates that the co-pilot deliberately crashed the plane.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ger...-clues-n330426

Too early to say that.

It seems to me news media (especially CNN) use plane crash to drive their ratings.

[nailer]

Pilot leaves cockpit, copilot locks him out, plane crashes...

FAA regulations require two crew members in the cockpit at all times during a flight. At least that's what the radio just said.

[Tom Joad]

This is some really sick shit.

PARIS (AP) — Ignoring the captain's frantic pounding on the door, the co-pilot of the Germanwings jet barricaded himself inside the cockpit and deliberately rammed the plane full speed into the French Alps as passengers screamed in terror, a prosecutor said Thursday.

In a split second, all 150 people aboard were dead.

Andreas Lubitz's "intention (was) to destroy this plane," Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said, laying out the horrifying conclusions French investigators reached after listening to the final minutes of Tuesday's Flight 9525 from the plane's black box voice data recorder.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the conclusions brought the tragedy to a "new, simply incomprehensible dimension."

The prosecutor said there was no indication of terrorism, though he did not say why investigators do not suspect a political motive. The inquiry is instead focusing on the co-pilot's "personal, family and professional environment" to try to determine why he did it, Robin said.

The Airbus A320 was flying from Barcelona to Duesseldorf when it lost radio contact with air traffic controllers and began dropping from its cruising altitude of 38,000 feet. The prosecutor said Lubitz did not say a word as he manually set the plane on an eight-minute descent into the craggy French mountainside that pulverized the plane.

He said the German co-pilot's responses, initially courteous in the first part of the trip, became "curt" when the captain began the mid-flight briefing on the planned landing.

Robin said the pilot, who has not been identified, left the cockpit when the plane reached cruising altitude, presumably to go to the lavatory. Then the 27-year-old co-pilot took control of the jet as requested.

"When he was alone, the co-pilot manipulated the buttons of the flight monitoring system to initiate the aircraft's descent," Robin said.
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The pilot knocked several times "without response," the prosecutor said, adding that the cockpit door can only be blocked manually from the inside.

The co-pilot said nothing from the moment the captain left, Robin said. "It was absolute silence in the cockpit."

The A320 is designed with safeguards to allow emergency entry into the cockpit if a pilot inside is unresponsive. But the override code known to the crew does not go into effect — and indeed goes into a lockdown — if the person inside the cockpit specifically denies entry.

During the flight's final minutes, pounding could be heard on the cockpit door as the plane's instrument alarms sounded. But the co-pilot's breathing was calm, Robin said.

"You don't get the impression that there was any particular panic, because the breathing is always the same. The breathing is not panting. It's a classic, human breathing," Robin said.

No distress call ever went out from the cockpit, and the control tower's pleas for a response went unanswered.

Air traffic control cleared the area to allow the plane to make an emergency landing if needed, and asked other planes to try to make contact. The French air force scrambled a fighter jet to try to head off the crash.

Just before the plane hit the mountain, passengers' cries of terror could be heard on the voice recorder.

"The victims realized just at the last moment," Robin said. "We can hear them screaming."

http://news.yahoo.com/official-1-pil...072049706.html

[merrylander]

If he was a terrorist surely they would have claimed responsibility by now?

It seems that the rest of the world is now contemplating the 'two at all times' rule

[donquixote99]

The real solution will be to have nobody it the cockpit.

[BlueStreak]

Terrible tragedy, just terrible. ".....we can hear them screaming." sends chills down your spine.

What's with the door that can be electronically unlocked from the outside but has an override in the cockpit? I understand the logic, if a crew member is unconscious or both are inside and a crazy person is trying to get in. But, if you have one crazy person inside....................

DCave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The real solution will be to have nobody it the cockpit.

You're probably right, but it would be sad to see the day.

CDave

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The real solution will be to have nobody it the cockpit.

I disagree. I could see this as a possible solution for air freight. But a passenger plane needs a flight crew.