The Shotgun Totin' President

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

And he's a lefty, I knew it.
Wait a minute, why is that shotgun belching smoke? I have shot clay birds
all my life and have never witnessed a modern shotgun blow smoke. Weird?

Chinese shells? Some of that shit is foul! Kicks like a mule and loads up the bore with all sorts of crud. Smoky too.

John

[HatchetJack]

I have never seen any chinese shotgun shells and their cheap Ak 47 ammo
uses smokeless powder. Corrosive maybe but smokeless.
It does not appear to be a flintlock or muzzleloader but I'm not up to date
on gun identification. Weird how the smoke comes out of one side of the barrel
as well as the front. Even if it is black powder it would not do that unless the
barrel exploded right?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I have never seen any chinese shotgun shells and their cheap Ak 47 ammo
uses smokeless powder. Corrosive maybe but smokeless.
It does not appear to be a flintlock or muzzleloader but I'm not up to date
on gun identification. Weird how the smoke comes out of one side of the barrel
as well as the front. Even if it is black powder it would not do that unless the
barrel exploded right?

It's a Citori 12ga. (Japanese Browning). Good guns. I used to have a Citori 20ga. side-by-side that I liked a lot. My fave of all time, though, was a 12ga. field grade Beretta "Silver Snipe" O/U, mod/imp. Beautiful, easy gun.

I wondered about that jet of smoke out the side too. WTF? Maybe the vari-choke wasn't screwed in all the way?

I'm going back a long time on the Chinese shot shells, maybe 30 years. After I saw what it did to the bore and felt what it did to my shoulder , I never used that shit again. As I remember, it used no shot cup and instead of a cushion between powder and shot (like there is on the shot cup) there was just a hard cardboard wad. Memory might be off here.

John

[JJIII]

I wondered about the smoke too.

The link Bob supplied mention that the shotgun was ported. that would explain the smaller plume of smoke to the right.Where would the bottom barrel be ported? Out the bottom would exacerbate barrel rise.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by JJIII

I wondered about the smoke too.

The link Bob supplied mention that the shotgun was ported. that would explain the smaller plume of smoke to the right.Where would the bottom barrel be ported? Out the bottom would exacerbate barrel rise.

Maybe it isn't. Porting is to reduce muzzle jump in order to get on target for a second shot. If one shoots the top barrel first, barrel jump is diminished for a follow-up shot from the lower barrel (where barrel jump is a non-issue. Just a guess, however.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Maybe it isn't. Porting is to reduce muzzle jump in order to get on target for a second shot. If one shoots the top barrel first, barrel jump is diminished for a follow-up shot from the lower barrel (where barrel jump is a non-issue. Just a guess, however.

Right, so a ported barrel will vent upward, not out the side.

John

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, that's right. It's always about you, isn't it, Bob?

John

I've got to prop up my sagging ego somehow, John. Doncha know I'm stupid? (with a tiny little brain)... Bacon Bits told me, so. It must be true.
Maybe he was calling the leader of the free world a douche?
Maybe BS will deign to clarify?

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Right, so a ported barrel will vent upward, not out the side.

John

How can you tell from that photo whether it is out the side or out the top?

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Maybe it isn't. Porting is to reduce muzzle jump in order to get on target for a second shot. If one shoots the top barrel first, barrel jump is diminished for a follow-up shot from the lower barrel (where barrel jump is a non-issue. Just a guess, however.

Makes sense to me.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by JJIII

How can you tell from that photo whether it is out the side or out the top?

I just can.

Actually, I was going from memory. I looked at the photo again just now and I really can't be sure.

One thing, though. The gun appears to have a ribbed barrel. That would mean that the vents would be in the barrel on both sides of the rib or on both sides of the rib itself. That being the case, you'd expect to see part of the barrel obscured by the smoke, as seen by the camera.

Ah, but what do I know? The first round I ever fired off at a trap range hit the house the launcher was in.

(true )

I got better. Always shot in the 20s and had my share of perfect rounds.

John