The Fake Campaign to Blame ‘the Russians’

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Another Putin apologist graces our pages. You and Whell should get a room.

Originally Posted by finnbow

You and Whell have done a Vulcan mind meld.

Originally Posted by finnbow

You sound like Whell. In other words, unless we have eye witness reports of an American spy from inside the Kremlin, it didn't happen.

Ever heard of that old saying "He went to the whell one too many times?"

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Ever heard of that old saying "He went to the whell one too many times?"

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. It goes both ways. Both of you are infested with fleas.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. It goes both ways. Both of you are infested with fleas.

Sorry Finn. That Dog won't hunt.

[Tom Joad]

Back on topic.

Can't let the bots get away with derailing this thread.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/...ils-after-all/

According to the Daily Mail, Craig Murray, who is the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange,

“flew to Washington, D.C. for emails….He claims he had a clandestine hand-off … near American University with one of the email sources. Murray said the leakers’ motivation was ‘disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the ’tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders’…

Murray says: ‘The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks’. ‘Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that,’ Murray insists.” ….

Murray said he was speaking out due to claims from intelligence officials that Wikileaks was given the documents by Russian hackers as part of an effort to help Donald Trump win the U.S. presidential election.

‘I don’t understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn’t true,’ he said. ‘Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.” (EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails“, Daily Mail)

[finnbow]

From the article:

Murray is a controversial figure who was removed from his post as a British ambassador amid allegations of
misconduct.

If this is true (doubtful), Trump and his minions should be calling out loudly for a thorough investigation rather than slinging all sorts of irrelevant and stupid shit.

BTW, Rationalwiki describes your source, The Daily Mail as: a reactionary, neo-fascist tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values," middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press (only Rupert Murdoch's Sun is worse). Its weighty Sunday counterpart is the Mail on Sunday.

The Daily Mail is to the U.K. what the New York Post is to the United States, and what the Drudge Report is to the Internet: to whit, gossipy tabloid "journalism" for those who cannot digest serious news, with a flippantly wingnut editorial stance.

[Tom Joad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNIrPLHVfdI&t=221s

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNIrPLHVfdI&t=221s

Finding a guy willing to repeat an unverified claim from a sketchy source doesn't corroborate anything.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Finding a guy willing to repeat an unverified claim from a sketchy source doesn't corroborate anything.

Which is exactly what the Russian Hacking conspiracy propagandists are doing.

They present no evidence, no names, no nuthin.

Why?

Because they got nuthin, that's why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giVGv_dnmdY

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Which is exactly what the Russian Hacking conspiracy propagandists are doing.

They present no evidence, no names, no nuthin.

We shall see. So far the only person who has seen the relevant evidence who doesn't believe the Russians are responsible is Trump himself and he's pretty much the biggest liar in the universe, along with his patron Putin.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Finding a guy willing to repeat an unverified claim from a sketchy source doesn't corroborate anything.

You mean like WaPo and NY Times did?