Speaker wants to rip PPACA out by the roots - Page 5

whell · #41 07-02-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

I don't see President Obama carrying Ohio. I do think he'll win in Michigan and I want to see Whell's face when that happens.

John

He won Michigan last time, and I survived. Barely...!

whell · #42 07-02-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Good if your base is not shrinking Whelly....think about it. Obama has women, labor,minorities and now those who favor the health care law on his side. Geographically he has a big chunk of the old East Coast, will probably win a few rust belt states, and most importantly, he may be building a Democratic stronghold here in the Southwest...California, New Mexico, and Nevada are within is grasp because of his good standing with Latinos. And he is not so far behind in Arizona either.
Romey may win Florida and Texas....and some of the smaller Western states (population wise) and the South. But I just do not get that expansion feeling from him...do you?
Now if I am wrong you can repost this in Nov

You can have all the "base" you want. If you can't get your base out to vote, you got problems. Money is still the mother's milk of politics, and the Repubs are currently out-collecting and out-spending the Dems.

beej · #43 07-02-2012, 02:32 PM

I believe that Ohio will be one of those states that could go either way depending on the news within the last week to 10 days running up to November 6.

whell · #44 07-02-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Good if your base is not shrinking Whelly....think about it. Obama has women, labor,minorities and now those who favor the health care law on his side. Geographically he has a big chunk of the old East Coast, will probably win a few rust belt states, and most importantly, he may be building a Democratic stronghold here in the Southwest...California, New Mexico, and Nevada are within is grasp because of his good standing with Latinos. And he is not so far behind in Arizona either.
Romey may win Florida and Texas....and some of the smaller Western states (population wise) and the South. But I just do not get that expansion feeling from him...do you?
Now if I am wrong you can repost this in Nov

You can have all the "base" you want. If you can't get your base out to vote, you got problems. Money is still the mother's milk of politics, and the Repubs are currently out-collecting and out-spending the Dems. Factor in polling data, which has been flat or in decline for the Prez, and I think the Dems a bit concerned.

BlueStreak · #45 07-02-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

As much as I dislike it mightily, Romney saying he won't balance the budget makes him the honest one on this issue.

Pete

Is Mitt already blaming Obama for the failures of his potential term in office?

Dave

piece-itpete · #46 07-02-2012, 02:42 PM

It would be par for the course

Ohio is still very much in play I believe. Cleveland proper and most of the inner ring suburbs are his for granted, but turnout is an issue.

I've mentioned the former for-sure coal farmers in his only base outside of the old rust belt areas are pissed at him. Also Kasich has been working very hard there and I believe making an impression. But will they vote for a 'cultist rich guy'? Who knows.

If the freaks start showing up at my door daily I think I'll start answering with a shotgun

And as John mentioned we can always just make the machines turn every Obama vote into two Mitty votes lol.

Pete

Boreas · #47 07-02-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

If the freaks start showing up at my door daily I think I'll start answering with a shotgun

If you begin to see clean cut young men wearing white dress shirts, black chinos and backpacks roaming your neighborhood and distributing Romney campaign literature, you'd better get your rapture-ready underwear out of mothballs.

John

whell · #48 07-02-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by beej

I guess it all depends on how one defines fiscal restraint. If one defines it as being fiscally responsible then I have absolutely no problem with reining in government spending so long as it is accompanied by reasoned and well thought out revenue enhancement through tax increases. To suggest that the national debt can be addressed by budget cutting alone is akin to trying to pay off your credit card by simply stopping charging anything more to it.

so, you believe that the size of government now is OK? Was it OK before Obamacare passed muster with SCOTUS? Will it still be the right size, even after the dozens of entities created by PPACA come on line?

https://www.aamc.org/download/133856...tities.pdf.pdf

whell · #49 07-02-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Is Mitt already blaming Obama for the failures of his potential term in office?

Dave

No, that's your job!

merrylander · #50 07-02-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

You can have all the "base" you want. If you can't get your base out to vote, you got problems. Money is still the mother's milk of politics, and the Repubs are currently out-collecting and out-spending the Dems. Factor in polling data, which has been flat or in decline for the Prez, and I think the Dems a bit concerned.

Three guesses what, or rather who, all that GOP money is buying. It is all coming from corporations and when was the last time you saw a corporation being run like a democracy. I rather think it is not only dems who should be worried, but every thinking American voter.