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Old 08-29-2011, 01:10 PM
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I generally agree. However, my experience with really smart people (I work with and around lots of PhD's and have a PhD nuclear physicist for a brother) is that they often lack in common sense what they have in "book learning." Plus, their management skills aren't necessarily commensurate with their intelligence.

Striking the balance between intelligence, common sense and leadership is indeed difficult. BTW, who with a lick of common sense and humility would want to be President just now?
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:14 PM
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btw, who with a lick of common sense and humility would want to be president just now?
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:58 PM
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I generally agree. However, my experience with really smart people (I work with and around lots of PhD's and have a PhD nuclear physicist for a brother) is that they often lack in common sense what they have in "book learning." Plus, their management skills aren't necessarily commensurate with their intelligence.

Striking the balance between intelligence, common sense and leadership is indeed difficult. BTW, who with a lick of common sense and humility would want to be President just now?
That is exactly my position Finn. The more brilliant tend towards less engaging personalities. Of course, there are occasional exceptions.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:23 PM
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I generally agree. However, my experience with really smart people (I work with and around lots of PhD's and have a PhD nuclear physicist for a brother) is that they often lack in common sense what they have in "book learning." Plus, their management skills aren't necessarily commensurate with their intelligence.
As long as the intelligence is there... AND recognized...others can follow suit with their contributions.
I have done much research and worked with a leading expert on just that subject. There are geniuses in all walks of life (not excluding the prison system). It is always nature AND nurture that determines the outcome.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:54 PM
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As long as the intelligence is there... AND recognized...others can follow suit with their contributions.
I have done much research and worked with a leading expert on just that subject. There are geniuses in all walks of life (not excluding the prison system). It is always nature AND nurture that determines the outcome.
Damn, Painter,

You're last three posts on this matter have been spot on.

But I do have a bit of curiosity as to why you mentioned the penal system.

Are you a former member of the only branch of law enforcement which receives no respect at all?

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Old 08-29-2011, 06:10 PM
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Damn, Painter,

You're last three posts on this matter have been spot on.

But I do have a bit of curiosity as to why you mentioned the penal system.

Are you a former member of the only branch of law enforcement which receives no respect at all?

Chas
No Charles I was not. But that fact about the penal system... gets to the core of those that have delusions of grandeur. We are all special people and possess talents. With some...you just have to look harder.
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No Charles I was not. But that fact about the penal system... gets to the core of those that have delusions of grandeur. We are all special people and possess talents. With some...you just have to look harder.
There was an interesting article in the Atlantic a couple of issues back. It was about how much free will do we all really possess. The author noted that the mass murder in that Texas university tower (sorry I have forgotten his name) left a note about strange thoughts. The autopsy turned up a tunor in his brain in an area governing one's volition.

I have always been curious about odd behaviour and people like those we call "Idiot savant". I remember one regarding a young man who had a measurably very low IQ yet upon hearing a piece of music once could play it, as well as sing it if it had words.

Dr. Wilder Penfiel a noted Canadian brain surgeon was operating on a patient one time and the following occured. The patient was conscious with his head held in a precise position. Part of the skull was opened so that probes could be inserted. (They tell me that the brain has no feeling.) Dr. Penfield was seeking the precise area of the brain to treat and energized the probe. The patient lifted his arm and when Dr. Penfield asked him about it the patient said "Yes, my arm lifted but I did not will it to do so."

Is that an argument for the human soul? I will leave you to ponder that.
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There was an interesting article in the Atlantic a couple of issues back. It was about how much free will do we all really possess. The author noted that the mass murder in that Texas university tower (sorry I have forgotten his name) left a note about strange thoughts. The autopsy turned up a tunor in his brain in an area governing one's volition.

I have always been curious about odd behaviour and people like those we call "Idiot savant". I remember one regarding a young man who had a measurably very low IQ yet upon hearing a piece of music once could play it, as well as sing it if it had words.

Dr. Wilder Penfiel a noted Canadian brain surgeon was operating on a patient one time and the following occured. The patient was conscious with his head held in a precise position. Part of the skull was opened so that probes could be inserted. (They tell me that the brain has no feeling.) Dr. Penfield was seeking the precise area of the brain to treat and energized the probe. The patient lifted his arm and when Dr. Penfield asked him about it the patient said "Yes, my arm lifted but I did not will it to do so."

Is that an argument for the human soul? I will leave you to ponder that.
As a matter a fact...I just read that article. If you get chance...look up left brain/right brain issues. I have been experimenting with my painting styles and found it most interesting.
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As a matter a fact...I just read that article. If you get chance...look up left brain/right brain issues. I have been experimenting with my painting styles and found it most interesting.
The favourite joke of a left-handed aquaintance was that it is only left-handed people who are in their right minds, my Sister, being left-handed, would appreciate that.
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