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Old 08-17-2012, 11:51 AM
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First Ayn Rand interview.

With Mike Wallace from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ooKsv_SX4Y

Apparently, quite a few of our fellow citizens have fallen under the thrall of this womans work. Including some pretty high ranking Republican politicians. They LOVE this crap and think it's the way our society should go. They call this "Freedom".

Personally, I think it is nothing less than the embodiment of evil.

The weak and poor are undeserving, and the only the successful and powerful are deserving of humanity, love and compassion?

Yeah, I can see how that mentality will lead to a rightwingers utopian society.......

Ayn Rand was f**king baboon. And so are her latter day acolytes.

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Old 08-17-2012, 12:30 PM
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The idea of one of her acolytes speaking of love is assinine, Amanda McBroom put it very succincvtly in "The Rose'

"It's the heart that fears the breaking
That never learns to dance
It's the dream afraid of waking
That never takes the chance
It's the one who won't be taken
Who cannot seem to give
And the soul afraid of dying
That never learns to live"
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:33 PM
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Another thing that most people don't know is that up until recently the Ayn Rand Institute had two co-chairs. One was full time with ARI. The other was an attorney with Goldman Sachs.

More recently BB&T bank alumni have joined the management council along with a doctor.

That group is up to something. Be careful of what you want. You just might get it.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:07 PM
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Another thing that most people don't know is that up until recently the Ayn Rand Institute had two co-chairs. One was full time with ARI. The other was an attorney with Goldman Sachs.

More recently BB&T bank alumni have joined the management council along with a doctor.

That group is up to something. Be careful of what you want. You just might get it.
Good grief! A conspiracy theorist. ARI is relatively small in the world of research groups. There are plenty of opposing groups with far more power.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:18 PM
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Good grief! A conspiracy theorist. ARI is relatively small in the world of research groups. There are plenty of opposing groups with far more power.
That's just name calling. Want me to start? I'm good at it.

Yes there are opposing groups to ARI. OWS comes to mind, but they are not as well organized and well financed.

A feeble minded thinker might say that the churches have a lot of money. But that would be forgetting that churches can't speak on political topics without jeopardizing their tax-exempt status.

On the other hand ARI gets to maintain its tax exempt status while being funded by the banks to go into schools and push atheism and dog-eat-dog onto kids.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:59 PM
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That's just name calling. Want me to start? I'm good at it.
I thought you already had. I try to avoid name calling; however, the multiple posts here that assailed, deservedly or not, Ayn Rand, I found a bit over the top. If you disagree with her, admittedly sophomoric philosophy, fine, but calling her names and casting her to the flames doesn't elucidate what's wrong with her position.

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Yes there are opposing groups to ARI. OWS comes to mind, but they are not as well organized and well financed.

A feeble minded thinker might say that the churches have a lot of money. But that would be forgetting that churches can't speak on political topics without jeopardizing their tax-exempt status.
That might technically be true, but churches still have a significant impact on politicians and certainly have influence on legislation. How about the left leaning think tanks? They would seem to offer a counterveiling viewpoint to the nefarious ARI.

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On the other hand ARI gets to maintain its tax exempt status while being funded by the banks to go into schools and push atheism and dog-eat-dog onto kids.
Are you equally against groups promoting collectivist causes in our nominally secular schools or just non-liberal causes?
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:33 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but, what is ARI?
The Ayn Rand Institute.

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=index

This is the organization that holds all of the copyrights to Ayn Rand's works. They also publish teacher and student study guides, sponsor writing contests, provide speakers for radio and TV engagements, write articles, etc.

Real slimy characters IMO.

The most telling for me was during the 2008 election campaign. ARI wrote an article that called John McCain a traitor for the the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform act. The ARI later removed the article from their web site. They are like cats in a litter box.
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:45 PM
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The Ayn Rand Institute.

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=index

This is the organization that holds all of the copyrights to Ayn Rand's works. They also publish teacher and student study guides, sponsor writing contests, provide speakers for radio and TV engagements, write articles, etc.

Real slimy characters IMO.

The most telling for me was during the 2008 election campaign. ARI wrote an article that called John McCain a traitor for the the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform act. The ARI later removed the article from their web site. They are like cats in a litter box.
Notice I deleted that post.

I visited ARIs website. Honestly, I skimmed. Just another rightwing "think tank". Amazing how many of the ideas espoused in there can be heard daily in the rightwing media....VERBATUM, right down to the letter.

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Old 08-17-2012, 02:02 PM
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Notice I deleted that post.

I visited ARIs website. Honestly, I skimmed. Just another rightwing "think tank". Amazing how many of the ideas espoused in there can be heard daily in the rightwing media....VERBATUM, right down to the letter.

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ARI is more evil than a right wing think tank. ARI is the propoganda arm for plutocrats. ARI's job is to make voters feel sorry for rich people. Their job is also advocate for an extreme brand of anarcho-capitalism. Of course they don't call it that. They just call it capitalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:44 PM
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Here's an interesting fictional video depicting L. Ron Hubbard and Ayn Rand concocting their ideas after a roll in the hay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5YWTFW5WMw
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