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02-14-2016, 12:05 PM
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My Hillary thread aside, but imagine if the world ended and Bernie lost and Trump got the choice instead of Obama.
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You want the world to end, Obama should nominate none other than Ted Cruz. He has the education, experience, is Hispanic, young, energetic, etc. Both parties will go absolutely postal and the world will end.
Seriously though Obama should nominate Eric Holder, he will never get voted but will wear the GOP Senators down to the extent that there will be no fight left in them.
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02-14-2016, 12:21 PM
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I'd like to see Holder or Warren take Scalia's seat.
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02-14-2016, 12:27 PM
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You want the world to end, Obama should nominate none other than Ted Cruz. He has the education, experience, is Hispanic, young, energetic, etc. Both parties will go absolutely postal and the world will end.
Seriously though Obama should nominate Eric Holder, he will never get voted but will wear the GOP Senators down to the extent that there will be no fight left in them.
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That wouldn't be fair to Holder. Obama needs to nominate someone who can get past the Senate but who at the same time would put the GOP in the most ugliest position if they blocked said nominee just on the basis of their hatred of the President.
Perhaps in Hillary's second term when she has a super Dem majority she can get Holder through....
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02-14-2016, 12:29 PM
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I'd like to see Holder or Warren take Scalia's seat.
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I'd like to see Warren take Obama's current seat. She can then appoint both Obama and Holder as seats open.....
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02-14-2016, 12:43 PM
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You have to be realistic John. Obama, like Reagan in 86, will have to at least mold his choice to the Senate that he has to work with. I would love to see Holder on the court...it ain't going to happen. If there is a moderate GOP justice who represents a middle ground that might be ok for this Senate during a very contentious election year Obama may have to go with that.
My Hillary thread aside, but imagine if the world ended and Bernie lost and Trump got the choice instead of Obama.
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Really, the Republican controlled Senate is already on record here. They ain't confirming nobody nohow. The best we can hope for is the recess appointment of someone who would be acceptable to either Hillary or Bernie. Then, when it comes time to make that justice a permanent appointment, the Republicans will be backed into a corner with their "let the people decide" bullshit.
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02-14-2016, 12:51 PM
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One added benefit for the Dems of a messy fight is that the (R)s are defending 25 Senate seats in November to the (D)s 10 seats.
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02-14-2016, 01:09 PM
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One added benefit for the Dems of a messy fight is that the (R)s are defending 25 Senate seats in November to the (D)s 10 seats.
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If the recess appointment is not palatable to the GOP, wouldn't they turn this into a rallying cry? And if Hillary is the nominee, lot of the independents may not show up to vote to avoid the stench.
How about Colin Powell and he doesn't need to have a law degree? Afterall he supported Obama.
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02-14-2016, 02:02 PM
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Since the GOPers aren't going to confirm anyone, it might be smart to nominate a progressive non-corporatist justice and let it sit until after the election. In the meantime, the SCOTUS sits without their most ideological right winger but still has RBG, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan. Kennedy is still the swing vote but he now represents the difference between a more or less progressive decision and a tie.
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02-14-2016, 02:10 PM
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How does this recess option work?
I am thinking that there has to be at least a minute break between an old session and new session of Congress lol....
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02-14-2016, 02:20 PM
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How does this recess option work?
I am thinking that there has to be at least a minute break between an old session and new session of Congress lol....
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A new session of Congress doesn't occur until new Congresscritters are seated after the election.
As for a Senate recess, I think McConnell can call one whenever he wants (or not). Unless he formally calls a recess, the Senate isn't in recess even if the halls of Congress are empty (or so found a recent SCOTUS decision when Obama did recess appointments to the NRLB when McConnell hadn't formally called a recess). McConnell (or a designee) can gavel the Senate into session every 3 days or during a long absence just to be able to say it has never been out of session. The whole thing is explained here.
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